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Trumps not for freedom of speech
#21
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech
Well, he was on a flier for a college...and that lead to a settlement for fraud...so....?
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(February 6, 2017 at 5:49 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Well, he was on a flier for a college...and that lead to a settlement for fraud...so....?

It didn't even qualify as a college. It was just a front for defrauding people.
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#23
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(February 6, 2017 at 5:49 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Well, he was on a flier for a college...and that lead to a settlement for fraud...so....?

Abaris Wrote:It didn't even qualify as a college. It was just a front for defrauding people.

Now THAT is a valid point, and a disgusting thing he's done. One of the reasons I couldn't vote for him (or anyone, either way: wish I had still signed up to vote, those last few days were absolutely brutal in terms of revelations from the Hillary Camp).
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#24
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Trump's not for freedom of speech?

No shit Sherlock.

But nevertheless, Ocochi, you're an awesome poster and one of my new favorites to the site.
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#25
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(February 6, 2017 at 6:21 pm)Violet Wrote:
(February 6, 2017 at 5:49 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Well, he was on a flier for a college...and that lead to a settlement for fraud...so....?

Abaris Wrote:It didn't even qualify as a college. It was just a front for defrauding people.

Now THAT is a valid point, and a disgusting thing he's done. One of the reasons I couldn't vote for him (or anyone, either way: wish I had still signed up to vote, those last few days were absolutely brutal in terms of revelations from the Hillary Camp).

Once again pointing out Hillaries faults doesn't excuse trumps

(February 6, 2017 at 7:24 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: Trump's not for freedom of speech?

No shit Sherlock.

But nevertheless, Ocochi, you're an awesome poster and one of my new favorites to the site.

Thanks Ham Big Grin
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(February 5, 2017 at 12:37 am)Orochi Wrote: http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politics/o...spartanntp

So apparently trumps not to concerned with the murder of journalists .What was that about freedom of speech again ?

But we all know how this threads going to go most of us will rightly criticize him. Some will desperately excuse him or scream that it's" fake news ". Trump can do no wrong.

It's amazing how Trump, in that article, says the same thing people on these forums have been saying for years. America is guilty of killing lots of people. America has no right to criticize other countries human rights records, when it has such a terrible one. I mean, those are things I believe myself. We kill just as many people as the Russians, easy.

As for freedom of Speech and Trump, I don't think he's cares at all about Freedom of Speech or the press. Although that particular article doesn't say anything, I'm very wary about Trump and free speech. I consider myself a free speech absolutist and would riot if it were under serious threat.
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#27
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(February 6, 2017 at 7:33 pm)Orochi Wrote:
(February 6, 2017 at 6:21 pm)Violet Wrote: Now THAT is a valid point, and a disgusting thing he's done. One of the reasons I couldn't vote for him (or anyone, either way: wish I had still signed up to vote, those last few days were absolutely brutal in terms of revelations from the Hillary Camp).

Once again pointing out Hillaries faults doesn't excuse trumps
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Which are far far far far far far FAR worse.
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(February 6, 2017 at 7:40 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:
(February 5, 2017 at 12:37 am)Orochi Wrote: http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politics/o...spartanntp

So apparently trumps not to concerned with the murder of journalists .What was that about freedom of speech again ?

But we all know how this threads going to go most of us will rightly criticize him. Some will desperately excuse him or scream that it's" fake news ". Trump can do no wrong.

It's amazing how Trump, in that article, says the same thing people on these forums have been saying for years. America is guilty of killing lots of people. America has no right to criticize other countries human rights records, when it has such a terrible one. I mean, those are things I believe myself. We kill just as many people as the Russians, easy.

As for freedom of Speech and Trump, I don't think he's cares at all about Freedom of Speech or the press. Although that particular article doesn't say anything, I'm very wary about Trump and free speech. I consider myself a free speech absolutist and would riot if it were under serious threat.

1. as many even of the right have pointed out that's equivalency

2.That remains to be seen
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#29
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech
(February 6, 2017 at 7:40 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: It's amazing how Trump, in that article, says the same thing people on these forums have been saying for years. America is guilty of killing lots of people. America has no right to criticize other countries human rights records, when it has such a terrible one.

No argument, other than that his own record features quotes about killing family members of terrorists. Just because. Or torture, just because.

It's not as if he delivered any valuable insights and would act upon them. It's just words to not piss off Putin too much.
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#30
RE: Trumps not for freedom of speech
(February 6, 2017 at 11:21 am)Violet Wrote: Not going to be pretty if Trump actually does something disturbing...

Oh, you mean like removing qualified people from the National Security Council and appointing a man whose only experience is running a race-baiting online bullshit generator?

Or how about banning but not banning a group of people from entering the country on account of how dangerous they are when they have not been responsible for one single death on American soil in the last 40 years?

Or how about stating that he plans to gut the separation of church and state?

Or how about nominating a creationist that thinks grizzly bears are good reason to have guns in schools as the Secretary of Education?

Or how about saying he admires a man that kills people that speak out against him?

Or how about advocating we torture people despite all evidence pointing to the fact that it serves absolutely no purpose and actually harms us?

Or how about re-opening the CIA black sites that were shut down because we were found to have routinely violated innocent people's civil rights there?

But, hey, fuck that mainstream media, right? Always quoting what he says and shit...
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