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Trump Loses Travel Ban Appeal
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Trump Loses Travel Ban Appeal
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/us/...-1.2964205

This part of the argument may have pissed the court directly off:

Acting solicitor general Noel Francisco forcefully argued in the government’s brief on Saturday night that presidential authority is “largely immune from judicial control” when it comes to deciding who can enter or stay in the United States.

Not sure how it works in the US, but in Commonwealth nations judges get a wee bit livid when told that politicians are immune from judicial control.

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RE: Trump Loses Travel Ban Appeal
He's largely immune to reality. Come on and peach stone this guy already or whatever. It's obviously going to happen.
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RE: Trump Loses Travel Ban Appeal
(February 5, 2017 at 9:25 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/us/...-1.2964205

This part of the argument may have pissed the court directly off:

Acting solicitor general Noel Francisco forcefully argued in the government’s brief on Saturday night that presidential authority is “largely immune from judicial control” when it comes to deciding who can enter or stay in the United States.

Not sure how it works in the US, but in Commonwealth nations judges get a wee bit livid when told that politicians are immune from judicial control.

Boru

No judge likes idiots, and the quoted sentiment is idiotic.

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RE: Trump Loses Travel Ban Appeal
(February 5, 2017 at 9:25 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/us/...-1.2964205

This part of the argument may have pissed the court directly off:

Acting solicitor general Noel Francisco forcefully argued in the government’s brief on Saturday night that presidential authority is “largely immune from judicial control” when it comes to deciding who can enter or stay in the United States.

Not sure how it works in the US, but in Commonwealth nations judges get a wee bit livid when told that politicians are immune from judicial control.

Boru

That was basically saying that Trump was above the law. A worrying sentiment.



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RE: Trump Loses Travel Ban Appeal
(February 5, 2017 at 9:25 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/us/...-1.2964205

This part of the argument may have pissed the court directly off:

Acting solicitor general Noel Francisco forcefully argued in the government’s brief on Saturday night that presidential authority is “largely immune from judicial control” when it comes to deciding who can enter or stay in the United States.

Not sure how it works in the US, but in Commonwealth nations judges get a wee bit livid when told that politicians are immune from judicial control.

Boru


For anyone that is interested, the official WH response can be found here
http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/documen...-ban/2320/

It's also where the quote provided by the OP comes from.

The full quote is as follows: see page 12
Quote:In the immigration context specifically, " the Supreme Court has 'long recognized the power to expel or exclude aliens as a fundamental right sovereign attribute exercised by the Government's political departments largely immune from judicial control'"


Also I don't think Noel Francisco had ever even said that...It was a quote from Cardenas vs United States.
https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/o...-35957.pdf
See section II. A on page 8


I hope that we can win the legal battle and not have to deal with this absurd ban, but I don't think claiming Trump thinks he is above the law is a winning battle here.
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RE: Trump Loses Travel Ban Appeal
(February 5, 2017 at 1:03 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:
(February 5, 2017 at 9:25 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/us/...-1.2964205

This part of the argument may have pissed the court directly off:

Acting solicitor general Noel Francisco forcefully argued in the government’s brief on Saturday night that presidential authority is “largely immune from judicial control” when it comes to deciding who can enter or stay in the United States.

Not sure how it works in the US, but in Commonwealth nations judges get a wee bit livid when told that politicians are immune from judicial control.

Boru

That was basically saying that Trump was above the law. A worrying sentiment.

Are we allowed to say he's wants to be a dictator now ?
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

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RE: Trump Loses Travel Ban Appeal
He's being a big fucking crybaby about it too.
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RE: Trump Loses Travel Ban Appeal
(February 5, 2017 at 3:41 pm)Shell B Wrote: He's being a big fucking crybaby about it too.

Heard he throw a coaster off his desk when he heard the news (might not be true). If it is thanks trump supporters you put a spoiled brat into office.
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RE: Trump Loses Travel Ban Appeal
What I find most troubling about the whole kerfuffle is Trump's referring to Mr. Robart as a 'so-called judge'.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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RE: Trump Loses Travel Ban Appeal
(February 5, 2017 at 4:02 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: What I find most troubling about the whole kerfuffle is Trump's referring to Mr. Robart as a 'so-called judge'.

Boru

The demeanor Trump has to bad news and how he approaches those that disagree with him is very concerning.

(February 5, 2017 at 3:16 pm)Orochi Wrote:
(February 5, 2017 at 1:03 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: That was basically saying that Trump was above the law. A worrying sentiment.

Are we allowed to say he's wants to be a dictator now ?

I really don't see how either of these two points follow, from the quote provided in the OP.
And that's before considering the the quote wasn't actually a quote from the solicitor general, it was a quote from a Federal judge from a previous case.
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