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Hitler was a Jew that killed Jews, in the name of a Jew?
February 12, 2017 at 12:36 pm
First, let me note and record how funny it is to me that our oldest member has literally used our History section as his personal poster board. Kudos Min!
May your legacy forever be etched in the sands of time for aliens or future historians to review and deem to be the "Only Rational Historian of the 21st Century! X)
Secondly, I was just reviewing some old Hitler propaganda and I ran into this gem. It does beg a question that I think is discussion worthy so here it is.
Even though anyone with access to wikipedia knows Hitler unquestionably considered himself a Christian (see link of my notes on the subject):
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Why did this make me laugh?
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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RE: Hitler was a Jew that killed Jews, in the name of a Jew?
February 12, 2017 at 12:41 pm
I always found it a little odd that some christians would hate jews so much for killing Jesus. Wasn't him dying the whole point? Kind of makes you wonder if the original followers didn't believe he'd get executed, but after he was had to make up something to explain how or why it happened. and forgot that hating the people who did it is kind of contradictory.
Then again I've also read that some people believed Moses was a christian, so we're not dealing with the brightest bunch of people.
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RE: Hitler was a Jew that killed Jews, in the name of a Jew?
February 12, 2017 at 3:15 pm
It's no coincidence that the character charged with betraying the messiah to the authorities is named for the whole Jewish people. Even though it was the Romans that pulled the trigger (that's how crucifixion works, right?), the scribes popularising the story - a political document, remember - realised that they were still going to have to live with the Romans in charge. Not exactly a regime you want to piss off.
Hence Judas, his betrayal and his sticky, confused end. Not only that, but when given a clear choice between sparing the life of ickle Jesus the son of man or the murderer Barabbas - "Jesus Bar Abba", Jesus son of the father - even though that's not how the Roman justice system worked, the Evil Jews went apeshit over the latter.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Hitler was a Jew that killed Jews, in the name of a Jew?
February 12, 2017 at 3:26 pm
Quote:Then again I've also read that some people believed Moses was a christian, so we're not dealing with the brightest bunch of people.
I once had a born-again type tell me - in all seriousness - 'If English was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for me!'
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RE: Hitler was a Jew that killed Jews, in the name of a Jew?
February 12, 2017 at 3:41 pm
(February 12, 2017 at 3:26 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Quote:Then again I've also read that some people believed Moses was a christian, so we're not dealing with the brightest bunch of people.
I once had a born-again type tell me - in all seriousness - 'If English was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for me!'
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I've heard that too.
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RE: Hitler was a Jew that killed Jews, in the name of a Jew?
February 12, 2017 at 3:46 pm
I still want to know why I can't get a Judas action figure?
Or even a Mary Magdeleine that bends at the knees...?
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RE: Hitler was a Jew that killed Jews, in the name of a Jew?
February 12, 2017 at 3:51 pm
NAZI race laws specifically defined Jesus and Hitler as 100% NOT Jewish.
Why single them out in legislation, you may ask . . . .
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RE: Hitler was a Jew that killed Jews, in the name of a Jew?
February 12, 2017 at 11:26 pm
(This post was last modified: February 12, 2017 at 11:29 pm by Mystical.)
Well now I'm just more confused. Although I think the running theory so far is "ignorance".
Where are all the Christians to set us heathens straight? I mean I don't want to have to go looking, but I'll knock on their door to sate my curiousity. They have to answer, after all..
(February 12, 2017 at 3:51 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: NAZI race laws specifically defined Jesus and Hitler as 100% NOT Jewish.
Why single them out in legislation, you may ask . . . .
Was this post war?
Because during the war, the pope made a deal with the devil hitler that jewish converted Catholics were supposed to be exempt from judgement.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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RE: Hitler was a Jew that killed Jews, in the name of a Jew?
February 12, 2017 at 11:37 pm
I think I can speak for our more conservative Christian posters by saying,
"Prattle, prattle, prattle, Jesus! Prattle, prattle, prattle, Free Will! Prattle, prattle, prattle, believe or burn in hell! Prattle, prattle, prattle, Faith!!"
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RE: Hitler was a Jew that killed Jews, in the name of a Jew?
February 13, 2017 at 12:12 am
(February 12, 2017 at 11:26 pm)Luckie Wrote: Well now I'm just more confused. Although I think the running theory so far is "ignorance".
Where are all the Christians to set us heathens straight? I mean I don't want to have to go looking, but I'll knock on their door to sate my curiousity. They have to answer, after all..
(February 12, 2017 at 3:51 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: NAZI race laws specifically defined Jesus and Hitler as 100% NOT Jewish.
Why single them out in legislation, you may ask . . . .
Was this post war?
Because during the war, the pope made a deal with the devil hitler that jewish converted Catholics were supposed to be exempt from judgement.
My recollection was the NAZI race laws were mid '30s. Certainly not during or following WWII.
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