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RE: Michael Flynn, national security adviser, resigns over Russia contacts
February 14, 2017 at 12:29 pm
(February 14, 2017 at 11:54 am)Tiberius Wrote: (February 14, 2017 at 11:17 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: No they don't, but he does provide an excellent distraction while they do their thing. We're so busy watching the rat in the kitchen that the roaches in the pantry escape much notice.
True, but they have to be thinking how this reflects on them in the mid terms and next election.
Sure, but there's plenty of time between now and then to spin a narrative.
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RE: Michael Flynn, national security adviser, resigns over Russia contacts
February 14, 2017 at 1:02 pm
(This post was last modified: February 14, 2017 at 1:02 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Flynn was only chosen to extend the olive branch to liberals, as a former Obama advisor...and they stuck with him to avoid succumbing to a political witch-hunt coming from the same radical group. Besides, they got rid of him, so everyone should shut their mouth and stop talking about russian ties, impropriety, and conflicts of interest, now. There is no reason to investigate further.
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RE: Michael Flynn, national security adviser, resigns over Russia contacts
February 14, 2017 at 3:09 pm
(February 14, 2017 at 12:29 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: (February 14, 2017 at 11:54 am)Tiberius Wrote: True, but they have to be thinking how this reflects on them in the mid terms and next election.
Sure, but there's plenty of time between now and then to spin a narrative.
You're new here, yes?
True enough, though I've been observing American politics for years. It seems to me that we're not even 1 month into Trump's term and he's already caused no end of controversy and scandal. If that keeps up for 2 years, it's going to have to be one hell of a narrative spun to avoid mid-term losses.
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RE: Michael Flynn, national security adviser, resigns over Russia contacts
February 14, 2017 at 3:34 pm
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(February 14, 2017 at 3:09 pm)Tiberius Wrote: (February 14, 2017 at 12:29 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Sure, but there's plenty of time between now and then to spin a narrative.
You're new here, yes?
True enough, though I've been observing American politics for years. It seems to me that we're not even 1 month into Trump's term and he's already caused no end of controversy and scandal. If that keeps up for 2 years, it's going to have to be one hell of a narrative spun to avoid mid-term losses.
The problem is with mid-term turnouts. They're historically dismal.
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RE: Michael Flynn, national security adviser, resigns over Russia contacts
February 15, 2017 at 1:17 pm
(February 14, 2017 at 3:09 pm)Tiberius Wrote: True enough, though I've been observing American politics for years. It seems to me that we're not even 1 month into Trump's term and he's already caused no end of controversy and scandal. If that keeps up for 2 years, it's going to have to be one hell of a narrative spun to avoid mid-term losses.
It seems that way because the MSM hates Trump and criticizes everything about him. But consider:
- the public's faith in MSM is very low
- they're desensitizing us to it. Every day I open my Google News, and there's a dozen things Trump is doing wrong. I've quit clicking on them. Trump's going to get away with actual, serious wrongdoing because it will just blend in with all the inconsequential crap.
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RE: Michael Flynn, national security adviser, resigns over Russia contacts
February 15, 2017 at 1:30 pm
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Knowingly appointing a National Security Advisor who made unethical, inappropriate, and probably illegal contact as a civilian with a foreign government and then lied about it is not inconsequential.
Sorry.
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RE: Michael Flynn, national security adviser, resigns over Russia contacts
February 15, 2017 at 2:00 pm
I do not find it comforting that U.S. intelligence agencies (i.e. spies) are leaking information about the civilian authorities to whom they are supposed to be accountable. I know the CIA has meddled in foreign governments but its very disturbing to know that it has turned its attention inward.
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RE: Michael Flynn, national security adviser, resigns over Russia contacts
February 15, 2017 at 2:18 pm
(February 15, 2017 at 1:17 pm)alpha male Wrote: (February 14, 2017 at 3:09 pm)Tiberius Wrote: True enough, though I've been observing American politics for years. It seems to me that we're not even 1 month into Trump's term and he's already caused no end of controversy and scandal. If that keeps up for 2 years, it's going to have to be one hell of a narrative spun to avoid mid-term losses.
It seems that way because the MSM hates Trump and criticizes everything about him. But consider:
- the public's faith in MSM is very low
- they're desensitizing us to it. Every day I open my Google News, and there's a dozen things Trump is doing wrong. I've quit clicking on them. Trump's going to get away with actual, serious wrongdoing because it will just blend in with all the inconsequential crap.
Come on. There is no way this is inconsequential, or that this may not be a serious wrongdoing reaching as high as the POTUS himself. You're just defending Trump no matter what, you're just as bad as people who look for any reason to attack him.
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RE: Michael Flynn, national security adviser, resigns over Russia contacts
February 15, 2017 at 3:09 pm
No, he's worse.
Having a potentially invalid reason to criticize the President is harmless.
Denying what the President does is not harmless because it is no longer words but often official policy.
It also is delusional and a key requirement for creating a totalitarian regime where basic facts become political opinion.
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RE: Michael Flynn, national security adviser, resigns over Russia contacts
February 15, 2017 at 3:49 pm
(This post was last modified: February 15, 2017 at 3:53 pm by Amarok.)
So let me get this straight
When Russia hacks an email server of a government official and leak information about them to try and manipulate and election.(it doesn't matter if America does it to other countries or not ) Then they receive praise for airing said officials dirty laundry from none other then Trump himself .But when the intelligence community in the United States do the same thing to Trump himself. There villains who need condemnation.
When it comes to Trump . Blame the subject not the messenger .
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