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Why aren't the Indians more grateful?
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RE: Why aren't the Indians more grateful?



Finally, this thread gets some class!
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#32
RE: Why aren't the Indians more grateful?
Good one.
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#33
RE: Why aren't the Indians more grateful?
(February 24, 2017 at 11:21 pm)ThortheMighty Wrote: Look at America today and look at all the wonders that go with it.

You really want to point to white wonder while the orange wonder is doing it's thing? Even those dead natives would be sulking in embarrassment in their graves for what you extra-special-white-flakes have done upon their land.
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RE: Why aren't the Indians more grateful?
(February 24, 2017 at 11:21 pm)ThortheMighty Wrote: Look at America today and look at all the wonders that go with it. The Golden Gate Bridge. The Empire State building. Washington D.C.

Was this all possible without white men, without European settlers?

What were the Indians doing for years? Just hunting animals and pretty much doing nothing and never progressing. Thousands of years and not one city built.

Even though they got roughed up a little (Thats what you get for not doing a better job defending your land) they received unimaginable benefits. They could vote in elections... read books.

I just get so sick and tired of all this white guilt stuff. Why isn't there a white history month or some acknowledgement that the white race has done so much for the world?

I fucking dare you to read "Where White Men Fear to Tread" by Russel Means.
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#35
RE: Why aren't the Indians more grateful?
LOL @ genocide, smallpox blankies and forced relocation.

Nah, I can't imagine why they wouldn't be grateful. Not to mention that not everyone values your sense of civilization.
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#36
RE: Why aren't the Indians more grateful?
Speaking as someone who feels no white guilt, I don't think the native Americans have anyone to be grateful to.

The European settlers had no intention of improving the lives of Native Americans, the fact that Native Americans benefit from the use of some inventions that white people came up with is just an unintentional result of the civilization that lives there in America now.

The same way all the civilizations who invaded Britain didn't do it to give the people baths, aquaducts and straight roads.

There shouldn't be any collective guilt or pride for achievements or atrocities carried out by any particular race.  To me someone who promites white guilt is just as illogical as someone who promotes white pride.

As for just being grateful towards the technology they now, they probably are.  It depends on how much they like the situation in now vs the civilization that min described, no taxes, beavers, buffalo, women do all the work and you've got a medicine man.


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RE: Why aren't the Indians more grateful?
(February 25, 2017 at 8:00 am)Alex K Wrote:



Finally, this thread gets some class!

TYVM. As they say in your homeland, I got class coming out of the Wazzenschnicter, I does.

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RE: Why aren't the Indians more grateful?
(February 26, 2017 at 12:00 am)paulpablo Wrote: Speaking as someone who feels no white guilt, I don't think the native Americans have anyone to be grateful to.

There's a difference between what you call white guilt and accepting that our history wasn't all good and working on not repeating it. White guilt is a fringe phenomenon, which may be shared by a few activists. Working on making things better in the future and accepting our own wrongdoings is somethíng everyone should do, since it's aimed at creating a better environment for everyone.
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RE: Why aren't the Indians more grateful?
(February 26, 2017 at 7:27 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(February 25, 2017 at 8:00 am)Alex K Wrote:



Finally, this thread gets some class!

TYVM.  As they say in your homeland, I got class coming out of the Wazzenschnicter, I does.

Boru

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The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
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RE: Why aren't the Indians more grateful?
(February 26, 2017 at 7:35 am)abaris Wrote:
(February 26, 2017 at 12:00 am)paulpablo Wrote: Speaking as someone who feels no white guilt, I don't think the native Americans have anyone to be grateful to.

There's a difference between what you call white guilt and accepting that our history wasn't all good and working on not repeating it. White guilt is a fringe phenomenon, which may be shared by a few activists. Working on making things better in the future and accepting our own wrongdoings is somethíng everyone should do, since it's aimed at creating a better environment for everyone.

Agreed. Pauplpablo says:

(February 26, 2017 at 12:00 am)paulpablo Wrote: The same way all the civilizations who invaded Britain didn't do it to give the people baths, aquaducts and straight roads.


... but what he is ignoring is the fact that come the industrial revolution, Britain became an empire by conquering 23% of the world's population and at its height was the largest empire in history.

I don't feel guilt for that because I wasn't alive at the time. But inversely, some people still feel pride in the British empire. The empire mentality still blights Britain even though we are no longer an empire. I can fight against this. I can also recognise that I am indirectly benefiting from Britain having an empire in the past. It won't stop me continuing to benefit from it, but I can at least appreciate why.

(February 26, 2017 at 7:37 am)Alex K Wrote: Yes we sometimes say that, on the rare occasions when we're not busy verwurstenschlagen our kobenhogenstrudel.

I've just broken google translate.
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