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Hatred
#41
RE: Hatred
(February 27, 2017 at 3:28 am)Exian Wrote: So your article is hatred exists and only Jews do it?

Every culture and every religion has good and bad people. Neither all Muslims are angles nor all Jews are devils. My focus is on Judaism because it officially leads its followers to perversion. I have read 10 different scriptures and none encourages mischief. Talmud is the only book that not only promotes psychological hedonism but under its pretext foster abominable practices.
 
Read the following quotes, see for yourself what is the power of psychological hedonism. If you feel any disgust against these quotes, then let me know whether your hate falls in the scope of psychological hedonism or not.
 
“When a grown up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing, for when the girl is less than this [three years old], it is as if one puts the finger into the eye, tears come to the eye,…
 
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(7) again and again but eyesight returns, so does virginity come back to the little girl under three years.”
Talmud. (1936). Kethuboth. Soncino Edition. Kethuboth 11b. p.58.
 
 
“If a Jew has coitus (sexual intercourse) with a Gentile woman, whether she be a child of three or an adult, whether married or unmarried, and even if she is a minor aged only nine years and one day — because he had willful coitus with her, she must be killed, and as is the case with a beast, because through her a Jew got into trouble.”
“Goy” Talmudic Encyclopedia as quoted by Shahak.
Shahak, I. (1994). Jewish History, Jewish Religion. 87.
 
 
“A maiden aged three years and one day may be acquired in marriage by coition.”
Talmud. (1935). Sanhedrin. 69b. p.469. &
Talmud. (1936). Yebamoth. Soncino Edition. 57b. p.386
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#42
RE: Hatred
So, Islam is better because you can't marry a young girl until she is nine?
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#43
RE: Hatred




I've never read the Talmud, but if that's actually in there and not some crazy ass translation, then yeah, that's gross as hell man. But you're telling me you've read 10 religious texts (I think you mean different texts from different religions) and you haven't found anything perverse in any of them, except the Talmud? According to my moral evaluation, you either haven't read them, or you and I have different ideas about what is and isn't acceptable behavior. Or you're biased.
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:

"I don't hang around with mostly men because I'm gay. It's because men are better than women. Better trained, better equipped...better. Just better! I'm not gay."

For context, this is the previous verse:

"Hi Jesus" -robvalue
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#44
RE: Hatred
(February 27, 2017 at 9:30 am)Exian Wrote: I've never read the Talmud, but if that's actually in there and not some crazy ass translation, then yeah, that's gross as hell man. But you're telling me you've read 10 religious texts (I think you mean different texts from different religions) and you haven't found anything perverse in any of them, except the Talmud?

He clearly hasn't read them. Googled the first quote and, in context, it is saying that if a child under three has been raped, and converts to judaism, then they are essentially treated as if they were a virgin, in terms of their marital value. It is not a permission or vindication of the abuser like Harris would have you believe.

That's not to say that the wider context isn't objectionable in terms of treating women as a possession, or why you would treat a child abuse victim aged 4 differently (although as I understand it from my brief google, age 3 is the minimum age when a girl can be 'betrothed', although the 'age of consent' is 9), but that isn't at all unique to Judaism's big heap of shit.
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#45
RE: Hatred
(February 27, 2017 at 10:07 am)ukatheist Wrote:
(February 27, 2017 at 9:30 am)Exian Wrote: I've never read the Talmud, but if that's actually in there and not some crazy ass translation, then yeah, that's gross as hell man. But you're telling me you've read 10 religious texts (I think you mean different texts from different religions) and you haven't found anything perverse in any of them, except the Talmud?

He clearly hasn't read them. Googled the first quote and, in context, it is saying that if a child under three has been raped, and converts to judaism, then they are essentially treated as if they were a virgin, in terms of their marital value. It is not a permission or vindication of the abuser like Harris would have you believe.

That's not to say that the wider context isn't objectionable in terms of treating women as a possession, or why you would treat a child abuse victim aged 4 differently (although as I understand it from my brief google, age 3 is the minimum age when a girl can be 'betrothed', although the 'age of consent' is 9), but that isn't at all unique to Judaism's big heap of shit.

That's the scariest part of religious texts as far as I'm concerned. They don't come with instructions for interpretations. As easily as Harris used those out of context quotes as proof that Judaism officially perverts it's followers, another guy can do the same thing to justify pedophilia and gain a bunch of followers in the process. It doesn't matter how carefully the books are worded. I don't know Harris well, but from what I've picked up, he's a Muslim, so it's probably safe to assume he includes the Koran in those texts he has read that contain no mischief. And yet we have ISIS, Boko Haram, Al Qaeda, etc.

It's so clear that most religious texts were written over a long period of time and by the seat of their pants. As new problems arose, the texts were adjusted with new rules to account for them. The problem is new problems don't stop popping up as time goes on, and at a certain point the books become the static sacred word of god that are no longer allowed to be adjusted in the face of new problems. Meanwhile, language and culture continues to evolve. The only thing theists can do is interpret them as best they can, which leaves them vulnerable to whatever intention the interpreter has. Letting alone that the books don't need any help being despicable.
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:

"I don't hang around with mostly men because I'm gay. It's because men are better than women. Better trained, better equipped...better. Just better! I'm not gay."

For context, this is the previous verse:

"Hi Jesus" -robvalue
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#46
RE: Hatred
Harris, please provide a two or three sentence summary for us.
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#47
RE: Hatred
(February 27, 2017 at 7:16 am)Harris Wrote:
(February 27, 2017 at 3:28 am)Exian Wrote: So your article is hatred exists and only Jews do it?

Every culture and every religion has good and bad people. Neither all Muslims are angles nor all Jews are devils. My focus is on Judaism because it officially leads its followers to perversion. I have read 10 different scriptures and none encourages mischief. Talmud is the only book that not only promotes psychological hedonism but under its pretext foster abominable practices.
 

Judging a modern religion by the statements of 4000 year-old sand people doesn't make sense.  Anyway, do you think Islam is different?  Want to list the ages of all Muhammad's wives, or should I do it?

The question isn't what the books say, it's what the followers do.  And right now, I don't think you can argue that Islam is causing less harm in the world, or that Muslims harbor less hatred, than Jews.  Now, if you want to argue that western Christian nations are hate-fulled warmongers, you might make a reasonable case.

But let's face it.  Of the major religions, the territories held by muslims today are clearly the most oppressive and fucked-up.  You should judge a tree by the fruit it bears, and see that Islam is currently bearing rotten fruit.
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#48
RE: Hatred
(February 27, 2017 at 9:30 am)Exian Wrote:




I've never read the Talmud, but if that's actually in there and not some crazy ass translation, then yeah, that's gross as hell man. But you're telling me you've read 10 religious texts (I think you mean different texts from different religions) and you haven't found anything perverse in any of them, except the Talmud? According to my moral evaluation, you either haven't read them, or you and I have different ideas about what is and isn't acceptable behavior. Or you're biased.

I am a student of comparative religions and philosophy and as part of my studies I am obliged to read different scriptures. I am giving you a list of scriptures that I have studied and I have seen discrepancies and contradictions within these scriptures.
 
If you are an atheist, most probably that is because you have seen some illogical stuff in the scriptures.
If I am a Muslim that is because I have not seen any mistake, error, discrepancy, … in Quran.
 
1.   Christianity (Bible King James Version)
2.   Hinduism 3 Books (Holy Bhagavad Gita, Holy Upanishads, Holy Vedas)
3.   Confucianism 4 Books (Doctrine of Mean, Great Learning, Holy Confucian Analects, Holy Mencius)
4.   Zoroastrianism 2 Books (Holy Zend Avesta that Comprised of [Khorda Avesta I, Khorda Avesta II, Vendidad, Visperad, Yasna] and Dasatir)
5.   Taoism 2 Books (Holy Chuang Tzu and Holy Tao Te Ching)
6.   Shinto 2 Books (Holy Kojiki and Holy Nihongi)
7.   Bahai 4 Books (Bahaullah Prayers Meditations, Epistle to Son of Wolf, Holy Kitab i Aqdas, Holy Kitab i Iqan)
8.   Jainism 2 Books (Holy Akaranga Sutra, Holy Kalpa Sutra)
9.   Buddhism 7 Books (Dialogues of Buddha, Holy Dhammapada, Holy Lotus Sutra, Holy Mahayana Texts that Is Comprised of [Amitayus Dhyana Sutra, Buddha Karita of Asvaghosha, Pragna Paramita Hridaya Sutra Larger, Pragna Paramita Hridaya Sutra Smaller, Sukhavati Vyuha Larger, Sukhavati Vyuha Smaller, Vagrakkhedika], & Holy Sutta Nipata)
10. Sikhism Holy Guru Granth Sahib collection of 45 Holy Books
 
Although all these scriptures have been corrupted substantially yet none is asking its followers to deceive people or to harm people deliberately merely for the sake of pleasure.
 
Talmud is the only religious book that is exactly doing that by making it obligatory for Jews to harm non-Jews in order to satisfy their hedonistic desires and to have supremacy over them by means of deception.
 
"A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs to the Akum (Christian), for it is written: Return to thy brethren what is lost (Deuter. XXII, 3). For he who returns lost property [to Christians] sins against the Law by increasing the power of the transgressors of the Law. It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is done to honour the name of God, namely, if by so doing Christians will praise the Jews and look upon them as honourable people."
Choschen Hamm. (266, 1)
 
"If a Jew is doing good business with an Akum it is not allowed to other Jews, in certain places, to come and do business with the same Akum. In other places, however, it is different, where another Jew is allowed to go to the same Akum, lead him on, do business with him and to deceive him and take his money. For the wealth of the Akum is to be regarded as common property and belongs to the first who can get it."
Choschen Hamm. (156, 5 Hagah)
 
"If a Jew is doing business with an Akum and a fellow Israelite comes along and defrauds the Akum, either by false measure, weight or number, he must divide his profit with his fellow Israelite, since both had a part in the deal, and also in order to help him along."
Choschen Hamm. (183, 7 Hagah)
 
"If a Jew is able to deceive them [idolaters] by pretending he is a worshipper of the stars, he may do so."
Iore Dea (157, 2 Hagah)
 
"Our teaching is as follows: When a Jew and a Goi come into court, absolve the Jew, if you can, according to the laws of Israel. If the Goi wins, tell him that is what our laws require. If however, the Jew can be absolved according to the gentile law, absolve him and say it is due to our laws. If this cannot be done proceed callously against the Goim.”
Babha Kama (113a)
 
I always try to give a quote with a proper reference so anyone can check it.

(February 27, 2017 at 9:31 pm)bennyboy Wrote: Judging a modern religion by the statements of 4000 year-old sand people doesn't make sense.  Anyway, do you think Islam is different?  Want to list the ages of all Muhammad's wives, or should I do it?
I simply do not understand why Modern Jews need the work of ancient psychopaths in form of that horrendous anti-human book (Talmud). Why Jews follow Talmud? The only reason that comes to my mind is that Jews are addicted to unscrupulous hedonism. Talmud, by hopping over all moral boundaries, have given a religious authority to Jews to make their lives a sheer pleasure by any possible mean that a human mind can imagine.

As for the age of Prophet Mohammad’s wives, I hope you are not relying on some anti-Islam propaganda site. If you are willing to discuss something about Prophet Mohammad and about his wives, then you are most welcome.

(February 27, 2017 at 9:31 pm)bennyboy Wrote: The question isn't what the books say, it's what the followers do.  And right now, I don't think you can argue that Islam is causing less harm in the world, or that Muslims harbor less hatred, than Jews.  Now, if you want to argue that western Christian nations are hate-fulled warmongers, you might make a reasonable case.
“The U.S. has no longer a government of Goyim, but an administration in which the Jews are full partners in the decision making at all levels. Perhaps the aspects of the Jewish religious law connected with the term 'government of goyim' should be re-examined, since it is an outdated term in the U.S.”

Bar-Yosef, Avinoam. (1994). The Jews Who Run Clinton's Court. Maariv. September 2.  

"I've never seen a President -- I don't care who he is -- stand up to [the Jews] ... They always get what they want. The Israelis know what is going on all the time. I got to the point where I wouldn't write anything down. If the American people understood what a grip these people have got on our government, they would rise up in arms."

(Admiral Thomas Moorer, former Chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff).
Curtiss, Richard. (1986). quoted in A Changing Image: Americans' Perceptions of the Arab-Israeli Dispute, American Educational Trust. p. 267

I think above two quotes are sufficient to show that so called “hate-filled Christian warmongers” are in fact no more than the Jewish puppets (the cucks). In reality blood thirsty warmongers are the Zions who are now pushing Europeans and Americans to go on war with Russia and China and this way to kill billions of people in place of millions.

Read the second part of my article where I have given some briefings on how Jews have enslaved the West.

(February 27, 2017 at 9:31 pm)bennyboy Wrote: But let's face it.  Of the major religions, the territories held by muslims today are clearly the most oppressive and fucked-up.  You should judge a tree by the fruit it bears, and see that Islam is currently bearing rotten fruit.
I think you have the idea why Trump and Putin are against main stream media. That is because main stream media (which is in fact Jewish media) is throwing allegation after allegation without giving authentic verifiable evidences.

Media has a power to portray the oppressed as terrorist and depict tyrant as angle. That is exactly what main stream media (the Jewish Media) is doing since the Bolshevik Revolution. First, the Jewish Media had made Russians and Germans Man-eaters after Jewish bankers and Jewish corporatocracy killed more than 100 million Europeans and now the same thing they are doing with the poor Muslims.

Jewish Media is deceiving people maybe because it is following the teachings of Talmud.

"It is permitted to deceive a Goi."
Babha Kama (113b)
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#49
RE: Hatred
10 seconds of google demonstrate pretty simply that the Quran is filled with errors-- for example, about the creation of the Universe. It also contains passages that go against the most fundamental principles of human goodness.

Anyway, you say the media is Jewish and that the Western world is a puppet for the Jews-- why then do these all-powerful Jews not have the power to stop you and a few hundred other lunatics from communicating on the internet? Why would they let you communicate with me, for example, given that I mostly believe the media and mostly think that you are full of shit?

You want a religion that works? SCIENCE- the religion of not-your-dumbass-fairytales. When the truth is worshipped instead of the superstitious fairy tales of ancient desert-dwellers, then humanity is on the path toward perfection. See, arguing whether Judaism or Islam is more fucked up is a waste of time for almost anyone born in this century or the last. The rest of us can agree that you're ALL deluded, and move on with the job of living life.
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#50
RE: Hatred
Hey Harris, remember when you discovered a cabal of the Zionist elite secretly ran AF? Well, you were right. You've become far too much of a nuisance/threat to our plans, so we're coming to get you.


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