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You're welcome.
#11
RE: You're welcome.
Quote:I proved 

No; you didn't. Not even for another Muslim like me.
You're confused; mystic. Because you're a Shiite, you can't talk about God without associating Ali and his kin in the story; at the same time people really don't care about Ali.

The worst, most insulting thing to do, is to bring a total stranger and ask me to be his servant. That's the Shiite faith: being servant to Ali and his sons.
Mohammed and the Quran are such a different case. But you come, along with the government of Tehran to say otherwise.

With Islam -not Shiite Islam-, just "Islam", like in the Quran, the center of attention is God. Also called "Allah" in Arabic. He's a special case.
Being a "God". He's a special case because he is claimed to be the same Abrahamic God; AKA the father, Yahweh...

not Ali's 999 friend !

But what the hell is Ali? what the hell is the 12 Imam?
Like, who are these guys? 

Do you really expect to say:

-I would bring a collection of papers called the Quran. Then, I would bring a roll of paper called "Shiite Hadiths". Then the result, is the Shiite faith. Believe me, or you're haunted by demons !

Oh..and you're normal?
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#12
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(February 26, 2017 at 7:40 am)MysticKnight Wrote: If nothing sees you as you truly are,
And merit value is contingent on perception,
Then do you as you believe you are and others believe you are: truly exist?
Or are you a figment of falsehood?

If you know you have value and merit,
And you realize that requires perception,
Then do you believe anything but perfect judging perception can give your exact value?

If you don't believe you have exact measurement and value,
Then why do you estimate yourself?

If you don't believe you require perception, 
Then tell me is your merit and value a physical thing?
Is it your blood, is it your body?
Is brain cells keeping memory?
And not the memory of who you truly are.

And who remembers you as you are?
From a baby till now,
Who keeps your value as you are
Is it you or is it your Lord the Most Noble and Generous?
Who wishes you to earn the most value,
That you can earn,
And calls you to away from the falsehood
Of what you attribute to yourself with no value,
And take pride in but has no meaningful purpose?

I proved and reminded you of God.
You're welcome.

That's nice, though you can replace the word god with just about any feel-good idea, and it would mean the same thing. When I read the line "Who remembers you as you are, from baby till now" my mind actually went to my mother. Who I love and respect much more than anyone's god.

Nice poem, I think, regardless.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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#13
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(February 26, 2017 at 7:40 am)MysticKnight Wrote:



I proved and reminded you of God.
You're welcome.

No. 

All you've done is provide convincing evidence that you've exhausted all of your "best" arguments, as you've now resorted to...this. 
It's scraping the very bottom of the barrel. 

I do think you're a super-nice guy, though, so I'm a bit embarrassed for you. Seeing you cave to this sort of sloppy desperation, is really uncomfortable.
So, stahp it, okay? 

Okay! Smile
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#14
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MK this is the first gift I've ever returned.

Fuck God in the ass with a large mutated carrot, I say.

MK, you have got to realize one day that if God exists he is clearly evil.

He allows all the suffering in the world to go on and he allows rapists and murderers and child molesters and serial killers to hurt people and he waits until after they die before he punishes them.

He allows the starving of children. He allows the cruelty to animals. When does he punish such cruelty? Only after death.

He allows you to be depressed. And he never answers you. If there is a god he simply doesn't care.

I would rather believe in no god than a god that would allow that.
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#15
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"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself — and you are the easiest person to fool." - Richard P. Feynman
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#16
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Are you doing okay, MK? Don't strain yourself.
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#17
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(February 26, 2017 at 11:56 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:
Quote:I proved 

No; you didn't. Not even for another Muslim like me.
You're confused; mystic. Because you're a Shiite, you can't talk about God without associating Ali and his kin in the story; at the same time people really don't care about Ali.

The worst, most insulting thing to do, is to bring a total stranger and ask me to be his servant. That's the Shiite faith: being servant to Ali and his sons.
Mohammed and the Quran are such a different case. But you come, along with the government of Tehran to say otherwise.

With Islam -not Shiite Islam-, just "Islam", like in the Quran, the center of attention is God. Also called "Allah" in Arabic. He's a special case.
Being a "God". He's a special case because he is claimed to be the same Abrahamic God; AKA the father, Yahweh...

not Ali's 999 friend !

But what the hell is Ali? what the hell is the 12 Imam?
Like, who are these guys? 

Do you really expect to say:

-I would bring a collection of papers called the Quran. Then, I would bring a roll of paper called "Shiite Hadiths". Then the result, is the Shiite faith. Believe me, or you're haunted by demons !

Oh..and you're normal?

This is why God is retarded.

Even his own followers don't agree. And God simply does not care to correct anyone.

Matt Dilahunty Wrote:The "What would change your mind" question came up again in e-mail. I've provided an answer many times, but the following version might be worth thinking about:

"I don't know what would change my mind, and I don't need to know. In fact, it would be arrogant for me to presume that I could even come up with an answer, because that presumes that I'm sufficiently knowledgeable that I can tell the difference between 'a vastly superior technology that is beyond my understanding' and 'the powers of a god'.
But, if there is a god, that god should know exactly what it would take to change my mind...and that god should be capable of doing whatever it would take. The fact that this hasn't happened can only mean one of two things:
1. No such god exists.
2. Whatever god exists doesn't care to convince me, at this time.
In either case, it's not my problem and there's nothing I can do about it. Meanwhile, all of those believers who think that there is a god who does want me to know that he exists - are clearly, obviously, undeniably... wrong."

My bold.
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#18
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(February 26, 2017 at 12:43 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote:
(February 26, 2017 at 11:56 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: No; you didn't. Not even for another Muslim like me.
You're confused; mystic. Because you're a Shiite, you can't talk about God without associating Ali and his kin in the story; at the same time people really don't care about Ali.

The worst, most insulting thing to do, is to bring a total stranger and ask me to be his servant. That's the Shiite faith: being servant to Ali and his sons.
Mohammed and the Quran are such a different case. But you come, along with the government of Tehran to say otherwise.

With Islam -not Shiite Islam-, just "Islam", like in the Quran, the center of attention is God. Also called "Allah" in Arabic. He's a special case.
Being a "God". He's a special case because he is claimed to be the same Abrahamic God; AKA the father, Yahweh...

not Ali's 999 friend !

But what the hell is Ali? what the hell is the 12 Imam?
Like, who are these guys? 

Do you really expect to say:

-I would bring a collection of papers called the Quran. Then, I would bring a roll of paper called "Shiite Hadiths". Then the result, is the Shiite faith. Believe me, or you're haunted by demons !

Oh..and you're normal?

This is why God is retarded.

Even his own followers don't agree. And God simply does not care to correct anyone.

Matt Dilahunty Wrote:The "What would change your mind" question came up again in e-mail. I've provided an answer many times, but the following version might be worth thinking about:

"I don't know what would change my mind, and I don't need to know. In fact, it would be arrogant for me to presume that I could even come up with an answer, because that presumes that I'm sufficiently knowledgeable that I can tell the difference between 'a vastly superior technology that is beyond my understanding' and 'the powers of a god'.
But, if there is a god, that god should know exactly what it would take to change my mind...and that god should be capable of doing whatever it would take. The fact that this hasn't happened can only mean one of two things:
1. No such god exists.
2. Whatever god exists doesn't care to convince me, at this time.
In either case, it's not my problem and there's nothing I can do about it. Meanwhile, all of those believers who think that there is a god who does want me to know that he exists - are clearly, obviously, undeniably... wrong."

My bold.

Maybe that's his goal.
Like an MCQ: choose the right answer.

It's not that we were original in coming up with that as an examination technique.

Would ignore all the signs, or believe in Jesus as God's son, become a heathen or simply refuse the exam altogether? 
So many answers.

What you're doing is getting frustrated with the questions, and start blaming the teacher.
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#19
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MK, look out the window! Lots of girls! Go outside and talk to them, they don't bite!
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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#20
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Unless he asks them very nicely...  Tongue
Quote:I don't understand why you'd come to a discussion forum, and then proceed to reap from visibility any voice that disagrees with you. If you're going to do that, why not just sit in front of a mirror and pat yourself on the back continuously?
-Esquilax

Evolution - Adapt or be eaten.
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