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RE: By the sun and its morning. ( 2 ) And [by] the moon when it follows it
April 10, 2017 at 12:52 pm
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(April 10, 2017 at 11:54 am)Brian37 Wrote: Is this yet the Muslim's version of trying to reach back in time and claim ignorant humans knew more than they really did? Because we have other Christians here using the "fine Tuning" crap to point to the bible.
Nothing in those verses demonstrate modern scientific MATH.
We get Christians quote the beliefs of Newton and Aquinas and?
The ancient Greeks coined the word "atom", so by that logic, since they are much older, we should all believe in their gods. But somehow and rightfully so, nobody does that. Because the language and context of the word as it was used back then did not mean "electron, proton/neutron", back then it merely meant "imagine the smallest thing you cant divide".
Arabs gave us algebra and we thank them for that, but none of that makes Allah real god.
This is retrofitting after the fact, nothing more. Reaching back in time to prop up an ambiguous quote is not evidence, it is reaching for nothing and pretending it is something.
Favoring the old ways is not always the right choice; I totally agree on that.
The idea is in the Quran not breaking despite the age it spends around.
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RE: By the sun and its morning. ( 2 ) And [by] the moon when it follows it
April 10, 2017 at 2:16 pm
Or they have, and your religion is barbaric in comparison to it's successor. Haunting, really, just haunting. 
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RE: By the sun and its morning. ( 2 ) And [by] the moon when it follows it
April 10, 2017 at 3:16 pm
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(April 10, 2017 at 2:16 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Or they have, and your religion is barbaric in comparison to it's successor. Haunting, really, just haunting.
Every now and then you get people who glorify the past, thinking that the old days were better in comparison to a new, alien world that they can't seem to adapt to it.
Preferring to repeat the mistakes of an old nation rather than facing their own reality.
Pretty haunting; ain't it?
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RE: By the sun and its morning. ( 2 ) And [by] the moon when it follows it
April 10, 2017 at 3:19 pm
Don't get like MK, Atlas.
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RE: By the sun and its morning. ( 2 ) And [by] the moon when it follows it
April 10, 2017 at 3:43 pm
(April 10, 2017 at 3:19 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Don't get like MK, Atlas.
Everybody remembered that line, and forgot about this line
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RE: By the sun and its morning. ( 2 ) And [by] the moon when it follows it
April 10, 2017 at 4:16 pm
So, "god" knows the sun comes out during the day and the moon can be seen best at night?
He must be real. No lowly humans could ever figure that one out.
Oh, wait...
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RE: By the sun and its morning. ( 2 ) And [by] the moon when it follows it
April 10, 2017 at 5:20 pm
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(April 10, 2017 at 4:16 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: So, "god" knows the sun comes out during the day and the moon can be seen best at night?
He must be real. No lowly humans could ever figure that one out.
Oh, wait...
Yes, and he gave it an immense importance.
An ignorant person would never give the skies any impotence; usually treat the sun and the moon as a given. Their existence is the base of our realization of reality; counting days and arranging our time is just a function of their shining and reflection.
Isn't it also weird to have a verse that holds human responsible for the bad acts they commit?
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RE: By the sun and its morning. ( 2 ) And [by] the moon when it follows it
April 10, 2017 at 6:33 pm
(April 10, 2017 at 11:40 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: (April 10, 2017 at 7:02 am)chimp3 Wrote: At least that throat slashing bandit was not a cannibal. Phew! I am so relieved.
He was a bandit in the eyes of Roman emperors who used to rape little children and watch death matches in the local arena, also a bandit in eyes of Persia and its torture methods:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scaphism
Let's be honest; Prophet Mohammed and his followers were up against some twisted bunch.
If ancient Persia or ancient Rome called me a bandit, I'll be proud.
Kemikal
Barbaric indeed. Just haunting. More or less murderous or 9 year old girl rapicious does not divinity make.
God thinks it's fun to confuse primates. Larsen's God!
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RE: By the sun and its morning. ( 2 ) And [by] the moon when it follows it
April 10, 2017 at 6:41 pm
(April 10, 2017 at 6:33 pm)chimp3 Wrote: (April 10, 2017 at 11:40 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: He was a bandit in the eyes of Roman emperors who used to rape little children and watch death matches in the local arena, also a bandit in eyes of Persia and its torture methods:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scaphism
Let's be honest; Prophet Mohammed and his followers were up against some twisted bunch.
If ancient Persia or ancient Rome called me a bandit, I'll be proud.
Kemikal
Barbaric indeed. Just haunting. More or less murderous or 9 year old girl rapicious does not divinity make.
Make me your prophet.
I guarantee no child abuse from me.
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RE: By the sun and its morning. ( 2 ) And [by] the moon when it follows it
April 10, 2017 at 6:43 pm
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(April 10, 2017 at 3:19 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Don't get like MK, Atlas.
He is unstinting in his efforts, so It's only a matter of time before he reaches MK's current level. Although where MK would be by then is any jihadi's guess.
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