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Islam, a growing threat to the free world?
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RE: Islam, a growing threat to the free world?
(September 28, 2010 at 7:21 am)Beam Reach Wrote:
(September 27, 2010 at 7:36 am)A Theist Wrote: Is Islam becoming a growing threat to the free world? What do you think...

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It is no worst than the christian threat.
Like flying planes into buildings?
Kidnappings and beheadings?
Car bombings, suicide bombings...
Is that the Christian threat throughout Europe and America these days?
I can respect your views against Christianity and religion, but your assumption that Christianity poses a threat that
is equal to Islam is not even close to reality. I agree with Skipper, Christianity has lost a lot of the political power it once had.


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Quote:It was an awful mistake to characterize based upon religion. I should not judge any theist that way, I must remember what I said in order to change.
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#22
RE: Islam, a growing threat to the free world?
Quote:I agree with Skipper, Christianity has lost a lot of the political power it once had.


It's a good thing or they'd still be burning people at the stake.
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#23
RE: Islam, a growing threat to the free world?
(September 27, 2010 at 8:31 am)Minimalist Wrote: Time to start pouring bacon grease in the streets. Let the fuckers kneel in that.

I'm thinking a modified sprayer truck filled with a mixture of water, bacon grease & powdered shellfish.

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Man that would stink after a few days in the hot sun.
(September 27, 2010 at 7:35 pm)Rayaan Wrote: I think the problem is not with Islam but only with the Muslims who do those things. I don't support such violence to spread a religion.

So you agree that we should destroy violent, terroristic murders even if they are of the same religion as you?

Congratulations, you just sided with the infidels.


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#24
RE: Islam, a growing threat to the free world?
(September 27, 2010 at 6:48 pm)A Theist Wrote: Murder, terrorrism, and flying passenger planes into buildings pleases the creator?

About as much as crusades, inquisitions and the burning of heretics at the stake. Protestants burned people at the stake too.
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
...      -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
...       -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
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#25
RE: Islam, a growing threat to the free world?
I'm not so much worried about Historical religious tyranny, what bothers me is the fact that these ass holes still exist.
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#26
RE: Islam, a growing threat to the free world?
(September 28, 2010 at 7:56 am)A Theist Wrote: Is that the Christian threat throughout Europe and America these days?
I can respect your views against Christianity and religion, but your assumption that Christianity poses a threat that
is equal to Islam is not even close to reality. I agree with Skipper, Christianity has lost a lot of the political power it once had.

(Bold emphasis mine)

Christianity has its bloody and violent history and the Protestants, when they had the opportunity, proved themselves no better than the Catholics. It's not that Christianity is a loving, kind religion that was misunderstood all along by the practitioners throughout history. It's that Christianity no longer has the power to lash out violently. Christian leaders can only envy the Muslim imams.

To believe in Hell and the Islamo-Christian doctrine of salvation will inevitably lead to atrocity. Wouldn't you use lethal force if necessary to prevent me from throwing your child into a lake of fire? How about if my speaking out against your religion caused your child to reject Jesus and thereby be damned to a lake of fire? When you have a devil to fight and a Hell to "save" loved ones from, the stakes are as high as they can be and any inhumanity can be sanitized.

Christianity is like a rabid dog that has been caged and muzzled. It chafes against its constraints. One can say it's harmless because it hasn't bitten anyone lately but that's only because of its cage. Islam is like the same dog running free. It's only more dangerous because it hasn't been caged yet but it's no better or worse than the caged rabid dog.
(September 28, 2010 at 10:42 am)theVOID Wrote: I'm not so much worried about Historical religious tyranny, what bothers me is the fact that these ass holes still exist.

Agreed. I'm just reacting to Christians who self-righteously criticize Muslim actions when I know full well their own religion would do the same if it could.

I'll be happy when both "rabid dogs" (to cite my analogy above) are not only caged but put down.
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
...      -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
...       -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
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#27
RE: Islam, a growing threat to the free world?
I wasnt islamaphobic until Muslims started flying planes into buildings and bombimg tube stations.
I wasnt scared of dogs till one bit me.

If Islam wants to be seen as a religion of peace. NOT killing loads of innocent people would be a good start.



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#28
RE: Islam, a growing threat to the free world?
(September 28, 2010 at 10:30 am)DeistPaladin Wrote:
(September 27, 2010 at 6:48 pm)A Theist Wrote: Murder, terrorrism, and flying passenger planes into buildings pleases the creator?

About as much as crusades, inquisitions and the burning of heretics at the stake. Protestants burned people at the stake too.
How do you justify the current international Islamic terrorrist threat with events that happened centuries ago?

Just this morning, the news released the discovery of another recent terrorrist plot against Europe. Terrorrists were targeting hotels in France, Germany, and England.
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Quote:It was an awful mistake to characterize based upon religion. I should not judge any theist that way, I must remember what I said in order to change.
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#29
RE: Islam, a growing threat to the free world?
He's clearly not justifying anything, he's saying Christianity, as an identity, has no right to condemn religious violence and act like it hasn't done things that were just as bad.
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#30
RE: Islam, a growing threat to the free world?
(September 29, 2010 at 7:45 am)theVOID Wrote: He's clearly not justifying anything, he's saying Christianity, as an identity, has no right to condemn religious violence and act like it hasn't done things that were just as bad.
It didn't sound that way to me. In all of his posts he condemned Christians for events that happened centuries ago. No where did he condemn the Islamic terrorrism our nations are enduring today. It "seemed" to me that he was dismissing it. He also said in another post that he knows christians would do the same if they weren't constrained. I say he doesn't know. I could just as easily argue, based on the content of his posts, that he would do the same if he weren't constrained...but how do we really know the private thoughts of another?
I didn't raise the Islamic terrorrist concern as a christian, but as a citizen who could potentially be one of many victims of a terrorrist attack within Europe and the United States.


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Quote:It was an awful mistake to characterize based upon religion. I should not judge any theist that way, I must remember what I said in order to change.
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