Roger Ailes is Dead

[Brian37]

Sad to hear that Roger Ailes has been killed by Princess Leia on his pleasure barge.

It's funny, but just this week I was flipping through my cable channels, landed on the "Grit" network, they had an old western movie or show on, the lady in the scene had THE EXACT same hairdo, and it wouldn't surprise me if Lucas or the producers got their inspiration from older movies. 

Anywho, yes glad that fucker is gone. Murrow and Kronkite would be pissed at what he did to divide the nation with his propaganda channel. Couldn't have said it better myself.

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I find it difficult to rejoice in anyone's death, but I can understand the attraction. Too bad he didn't repent before he died.

I am not into revenge one bit, but it is perfectly natural in our species emotions evolution wise to feel relief when someone is causing you problems to feel a sense of relief when they are no longer around to keep doing it.

Roger and the right wing for that matter, are bad for western society and there simply is no polite way to put it. Roger took objective journalism and turned it into Jerry Springer. His network appealed to the worst in our species, his network appeals to fear and xenophobia.

[Jeanne]

Roger Ailes was, as are most of us, a complicated person; he did not present a neat package and he had ethical failings. He was at the same time kind and considerate and encouraging, while being a sexual predator with some women.  He was a journalistic genius and a political influence and he was flawed in his relationships with women, even women he respected for their journalistic achievements.

He did whatever it took in a "take no prisoners way" to allow a conservative news alternative to flourish at a time when there were no conservative news outlets...and he did it well.  Before the internet's social media fully came into its own, the country was allowed to share a different viewpoint and the media no longer had a firm grasp on what the country knew about and how they thought about it.  The media lost control of the people and the Progressives suffered from it.

You may think that his work and his news outlet divided the nation and ruined its national opinion, but the nation has never been united in its viewpoint and opinion; the media just did not represent the other side, which they wished would sit down and shut up forever more and allow what was happening in the country of which they approved whole-heartedly, to just happen.  

There is no such thing as one national viewpoint and opinion and the internet has set free the way people learn about ...everything, but especially current events.  The majority in America has been of a conservative bent and Roger Ailes represented that majority for the nation via Fox News.  

Freethinkers should welcome more informational outlets and more viewpoints, not fewer.   That is part of what "democracy" is all about.

His sexual predation was despicable and deserving of scorn and prosecution and it seems often to be a flaw held by men of power, whether they do good or do evil.  It is an act of exerting power.  It does not negate his other accomplishments or his other actions even though it tarnishes the man.

Not everyone agrees with the previous statements made here and of course those who posted know this.  A sense of humanism requires that we not ignore our own flaws as we condemn a man who was much more than just his flawed behavior.  We are all much more than just our flaws and we know well that power has a way of bringing out the flaws of those who achieve it.

-Jeanne

[Brian37]

Roger Ailes was, as are most of us, a complicated person; he did not present a neat package and he had ethical failings. He was at the same time kind and considerate and encouraging, while being a sexual predator with some women.  He was a journalistic genius and a political influence and he was flawed in his relationships with women, even women he respected for their journalistic achievements.

He did whatever it took in a "take no prisoners way" to allow a conservative news alternative to flourish at a time when there were no conservative news outlets...and he did it well.  Before the internet's social media fully came into its own, the country was allowed to share a different viewpoint and the media no longer had a firm grasp on what the country knew about and how they thought about it.  The media lost control of the people and the Progressives suffered from it.

You may think that his work and his news outlet divided the nation and ruined its national opinion, but the nation has never been united in its viewpoint and opinion; the media just did not represent the other side, which they wished would sit down and shut up forever more and allow what was happening in the country of which they approved whole-heartedly, to just happen.  

There is no such thing as one national viewpoint and opinion and the internet has set free the way people learn about ...everything, but especially current events.  The majority in America has been of a conservative bent and Roger Ailes represented that majority for the nation via Fox News.  

Freethinkers should welcome more informational outlets and more viewpoints, not fewer.   That is part of what "democracy" is all about.

His sexual predation was despicable and deserving of scorn and prosecution and it seems often to be a flaw held by men of power, whether they do good or do evil.  It is an act of exerting power.  It does not negate his other accomplishments or his other actions even though it tarnishes the man.

Not everyone agrees with the previous statements made here and of course those who posted know this.  A sense of humanism requires that we not ignore our own flaws as we condemn a man who was much more than just his flawed behavior.  We are all much more than just our flaws and we know well that power has a way of bringing out the flaws of those who achieve it.

-Jeanne

Roger was a narcissist and only cared about ratings. He was to journalism what Pravda was to Russia. 

He created a fear mongering network, not a news organization. He is nothing western journalists should be proud of or aspire to be. I am glad that fucker is gone. It is one thing to value different views, but that is not what he was about. He ran a propaganda network.

[A Theist]

Hopefully, the most evil person in the United States and former Nazi, George Soros, will be the next to grace us with his demise.

[Angrboda]

Hopefully, the most evil person in the United States and  former Nazi, George Soros, will be the next to grace us with his demise.

You're such a class act, A Theist. Wishing people dead.

[Brian37]

Hopefully, the most evil person in the United States and  former Nazi, George Soros, will be the next to grace us with his demise.

I can only agree when you are talking about far right bigots that it is normal to feel a sense of relief when they are no longer around to spew their toxic crap, but revenge solves nothing. 

If Trump kicked over from a heart attack, I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't be happy. I was happy when Falwell died. But there is still a difference between "happy" as in sense of relief, and "happy" in an attitude of revenge. 

I'd say the trick to defeating these right wing sickos is raising our voices with criticism and blasphemy and satire and ridicule but not attitudes of revenge.

"Eye for an eye makes the whole world blind".

[GUBU]

Hopefully, the most evil person in the United States and  former Nazi, George Soros, will be the next to grace us with his demise.

Hey Whiny Nazi, you do realise that Soros is jewish and barely managed to survive your messiah's gas chambers?

On the other hand, you got to love it when real shits like you project onto others, all the bile and hatred coming to the surface and boiling off the fake veneer of humanity.

PS surprised that Scoobs isn't on here trying to claim that Ailes was murdered by the Clintons and the fact covered up by the fake news media in order to remove one of the few people fighting against the satanic NWO.

[Crossless2.0]

Apparently fell a week ago hitting his head.  Seems he had a severe head injury and didn't regain consciousness.

For his family's sake, I'll say it's a pity he hit his head rather than impale himself on something sharp through the heart -- his least vulnerable part.

I won't miss the son-of-a-bitch.

[vorlon13]

Surprising how many people I've known who died of complications from a fall. Hell, I went down a flight of stairs around xmas and cracked a goddam rib.

I could come up with more appropriate scenarios if I was a deity . . .

[Anomalocaris]

Apparently fell a week ago hitting his head.  Seems he had a severe head injury and didn't regain consciousness.

For his family's sake, I'll say it's a pity he hit his head rather than impale himself on something sharp through the heart -- his least vulnerable part.

I won't miss the son-of-a-bitch.

Too bad he died not knowing it's coming.