Lifelong Christian had to face the facts

[LastPoet]

Thats blind faith. Try again.

Faith is believing without evidence, an a priori belief, so all faith is blind. Are telling us not?

I believe there is a God, but I dont say there is a God absolutely, I could be wrong. You still do believe aliens exist.

And you are wrong. and I think he said he believes to be possible for aliens to exist, unlike christians that believe they are made by god, to wich no evidence was ever found and is logically impossible.

Name one.

He did, the snowflakes, weren't you paying attention? There are plenty of other examples.

Snow flakes? Simple?
I wouldnt say its simple.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/...lakes.html

The Chemistry and Physics behind it would be rather complicated, wouldnt you agree?

So is the chaos theory ignorant to how complicated our world is?

He didn't said they were simple, they are incredibly complex patterns formed by simple chrystal structures that frozen water assumes. If these simple rules are 'complicated to you, well, no wonder you believe in fairy tales. You should look a bit further into chemistry and chaos theory to really know what you are talking about, but since you prefer a 'goddidit' I'd wager you are not going to.

If the bigbang was a tiny bit bigger or smaller no life, no galaxies, no nothing would exist; either we are bloody lucky or some being had His hand in creating this universe. You have to have over 20 parameters in place for a universe and funny enough, all the parameters are perfect.

You really wish your god to exist don't you Solja? Since you can't accept that you might be here by being 'lucky' you rather firmly grasp the idea that there is a god. How do you know that there aren't other universes coming to existence that get destroyed right away or others that really have better conditions? And what is subjectively good to you, to us mankind, those constants you creationists like to pull out may be very adverse to other beings. to shorten things out, its a massive argument from ignorance, with some old wishfull thinking. You can't imagine howcome the universe came to be, and you really want that some supreme being created you for a special purpose. Too bad there is no evidence for it.

[thesummerqueen]

I really have nothing to add - I think Idarwin is doing great. But as long as we're discussing the possibility of people/beings existing or not existing: if absence of proof doesn't necessarily mean non-existence, I'm all for believing that somewhere out there Jessica Rabbit actually exists.

[Spectrum]

If the bigbang was a tiny bit bigger or smaller no life, no galaxies, no nothing would exist; either we are bloody lucky or some being had His hand in creating this universe. You have to have over 20 parameters in place for a universe and funny enough, all the parameters are perfect.

That is not evidence of your god, and how the fuck do you even know it's a "he"? You don't know anything about other realms (especially considering humans made them up without evidence), and neither does any other human. You're merely twisting facts to suit theories rather than theories to suit facts, and you're doing so without evidence. Admit you're subscribing to faith, please, you'd do yourself a lot of justice. You're telling me things I already know by the way. Perhaps you should try harder, because that was pitiful -__- Do you really believe that a creator is the answer to these statistics? In all seriousness, you don't know what the explanation is. At least science tries to use evidence. You're merely saying: "oh we don't know the answer yet, so let me insert a magical being into the mix so that way I have my answer". Stop acting like you're using science, because that's not how science works. How the crap are you going to test a god hypothesis? It's just faith really, unless you have some ground-breaking studies. If so, I'd love to see them.

[theophilus]

But as long as we're discussing the possibility of people/beings existing or not existing: if absence of proof doesn't necessarily mean non-existence, I'm all for believing that somewhere out there Jessica Rabbit actually exists.

You might enjoy reading The Number of the Beast by Robert Heinlein. In it a man invents a spaceship capable of traveling to alternate universes and using it he even visits worlds that exist only in fiction.

The odd foursome dash off in Gay Deceiver , Zeb's sports car spaceship, outfitted with the professor's continua device and armed by Australian Defence Force, into various fictional universes. There is sex, rivalry, and even a trip to Oz. An attempt to visit Barsoom, curiously, takes the quartet to a different version of Mars, seemingly under the colonial rule of the British Empire. However, near the end of the novel, it is obliquely hinted by Lazarus Long that they had in fact been to Barsoom, the "colonial Mars" being an illusion imposed on them by the telepathically adept Barsoomians:

http://www.reference.com/browse/The_Numb...28novel%29