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RE: How atheist are you?
December 8, 2017 at 11:18 am
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I really am not a fan of this scale. Not only because it tries to quantify something that is constantly fluid and un-pin-down-able, but because it also further muddies the waters in terms of what the 'atheist' label means.
I can understand Dawkins wanting a useful abbreviation or indicator of someone's confidence of belief, but this is just a bit too unwieldy for my tastes.
I am 100% certain that I do not believe a god exists, but I do not claim to be certain that no god in fact exists. No idea where I'd be on a number scale.
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RE: How atheist are you?
December 8, 2017 at 11:20 am
I don't understand what his point was of making this scale in the first place. Why the need to "measure" disbelief in something you find as silly as Santa Clause?
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RE: How atheist are you?
December 8, 2017 at 11:23 am
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(December 8, 2017 at 11:20 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I don't understand what his point was of making this scale in the first place. Why the need to "measure" disbelief in something you find as silly as Santa Clause?
I think it's an attempt to have some sort of starting point to a discussion - like if I knew you were a 2 and I was a 6.5, that might frame our discussion/arguments better, whereas a discussion between a 3 and a 5 might be very different.
It's just not something that can be quantified or put on a ruler. Dawkins is approaching it from a very scientific, quantifiable perspective - I just think it's not a useful way to do it. Not to mention that if hardly anyone knows of the scale (let alone uses it), then it's not useful by definition. It's not like I go up to every theist and ask them what number they are on the scale, I just ask them what they believe and why.
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RE: How atheist are you?
December 8, 2017 at 11:23 am
On a scale of 1-7 I would guess I'm around a billion billion billion billion.
You are currently experiencing a lucky and very brief window of awareness, sandwiched in between two periods of timeless and utter nothingness. So why not make the most of it, and stop wasting your life away trying to convince other people that there is something else? The reality is obvious.
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RE: How atheist are you?
December 8, 2017 at 11:40 am
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In a nutshell, I'm uninterested in the scale in the op. Regarding religious matters, I would say that it has no meaning or value to me: it is not my path, and it is not who I am; however, in the interest of peacefully co-existing with those who are different than me, I will respect those who wish to hold religious beliefs, provided that they do so in a peaceful and civil manner (I would also expect them to hold me to this same standard in terms of my non-belief and to let me know if I'm failing to live up to it).
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RE: How atheist are you?
December 8, 2017 at 12:55 pm
(December 8, 2017 at 11:40 am)Kernel Sohcahtoa Wrote: In a nutshell, I'm uninterested in the scale in the op. Regarding religious matters, I would say that it has no meaning or value to me: it is not my path, and it is not who I am; however, in the interest of peacefully co-existing with those who are different than me, I will respect those who wish to hold religious beliefs, provided that they do so in a peaceful and civil manner (I would also expect them to hold me to this same standard in terms of my non-belief and to let me know if I'm failing to live up to it).
Classy as always.
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RE: How atheist are you?
December 8, 2017 at 4:03 pm
(December 8, 2017 at 11:40 am)Kernel Sohcahtoa Wrote: In a nutshell, I'm uninterested in the scale in the op. Regarding religious matters, I would say that it has no meaning or value to me: it is not my path, and it is not who I am; however, in the interest of peacefully co-existing with those who are different than me, I will respect those who wish to hold religious beliefs, provided that they do so in a peaceful and civil manner (I would also expect them to hold me to this same standard in terms of my non-belief and to let me know if I'm failing to live up to it).
0 to 7 we could use simple analitics to create an octal framework for math. I prefer decimal.
Perhaps the OP is trying to infer a continuum. Well, it is possible as long as one has 2 digits.
But I diverge. Agreed.
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RE: How atheist are you?
December 8, 2017 at 4:12 pm
Agnostic atheist, but with the proviso that what I see of whatever people call a "god", it is pretty obviously made up.
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RE: How atheist are you?
December 8, 2017 at 7:12 pm
The much more interesting and more well-defined question is whether there is a meaningful afterlife. Put me down with a 6.99 on the no side based on the evidence. God is too ill defined a thing to say something concrete about.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
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RE: How atheist are you?
December 8, 2017 at 7:18 pm
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I’d say I’m a 5 and 1/2
I do not know whether God exists but I operate under the assumption that he doesn’t.
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