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Bernie Sanders Rocks My World!
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Bernie Sanders Rocks My World!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcLWDGb0RqA

Speaking truth to power, Bernie Sanders' eloquent and passionate speech about the war on the middle and working classes.
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Ssshhhh....don' tell Adrian. He thinks we should all be gleefully picking cotton for M'assa.
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No, I just believe in equality. It's a shame not many other people do.
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It's like I've said, the left isn't trying to instigate "class warfare". We just acknowledge that it's been raging for 30 years now. The middle class is losing badly.
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(December 1, 2010 at 1:34 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: The middle class is losing badly.

I don't know how things are in the UK, but this is an undeniable fact in the USA.

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(December 1, 2010 at 1:34 pm)Tiberius Wrote: No, I just believe in equality. It's a shame not many other people do.

Tell that to your rich buddies.
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(December 1, 2010 at 1:34 pm)Tiberius Wrote: No, I just believe in equality. It's a shame not many other people do.

Then you wouldn't mind if the top 1% of income earners took an across the board 80% pay cut. Right? Can't get any more equal than that! Cool Shades
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(December 1, 2010 at 1:48 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
(December 1, 2010 at 1:34 pm)Tiberius Wrote: No, I just believe in equality. It's a shame not many other people do.

Tell that to your rich buddies.
I don't have any rich 'buddies'.

(December 1, 2010 at 1:55 pm)orogenicman Wrote:
(December 1, 2010 at 1:34 pm)Tiberius Wrote: No, I just believe in equality. It's a shame not many other people do.

Then you wouldn't mind if the top 1% of income earners took an across the board 80% pay cut. Right? Can't get any more equal than that! Cool Shades
It would only be equal if everyone took an across the board 80% pay cut. When will people get it into their heads that everyone earning the same amount of money (or limiting the amount you can earn) doesn't work? Economies fluctuate; people come up with services and use them to make profit. If you limit that, you take away any incentive people have for expanding on their ideas in the first place.
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RE: Bernie Sanders Rocks My World!
Indeed. I witnessed a rather curious conversation between Adrian_Hayter and another person about that person's live in situation. When that person explained that he or she was responsible for half the bills, but earned less than the other live in person, Adrian said that wasn't fair.

My point is, don't listen to people who talk about equality who have to append a 'but...' or 'except...'.

Oh, I just heard news that yesterday Republicans in Congress stalled so that extended unemployment benefits would expire.

In other news, Republicans are also blocking all legislation until Democrats agree to extend tax cuts to people making over 250,000$.

Oh well. You get the government you deserve.

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Tiberius Wrote:
(December 1, 2010 at 1:55 pm)orogenicman Wrote:
(December 1, 2010 at 1:34 pm)Tiberius Wrote: No, I just believe in equality. It's a shame not many other people do.

Then you wouldn't mind if the top 1% of income earners took an across the board 80% pay cut. Right? Can't get any more equal than that! Cool Shades
It would only be equal if everyone took an across the board 80% pay cut. When will people get it into their heads that everyone earning the same amount of money (or limiting the amount you can earn) doesn't work? Economies fluctuate; people come up with services and use them to make profit. If you limit that, you take away any incentive people have for expanding on their ideas in the first place.

I disagree. And for the record, I am a strong believer in capitalism, but not at the expense of the poor and the middle class. When a CEO, ANY CEO makes more than the GDP of our poorest state, I see a problem with that. When CEO's run businesses to the ground and then get golden parachutes as they are shown the door, I have a huge problem with that. I believe in a fair wage for a fair day's work. I know of very few upper management people for whom this axiom is applied. I know of tons of middle class and working poor for whom this axiom is NEVER applied.
'The difference between a Miracle and a Fact is exactly the difference between a mermaid and seal. It could not be expressed better.'
-- Samuel "Mark Twain" Clemens

"I think that in the discussion of natural problems we ought to begin not with the scriptures, but with experiments, demonstrations, and observations".

- Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)

"In short, Meyer has shown that his first disastrous book was not a fluke: he is capable of going into any field in which he has no training or research experience and botching it just as badly as he did molecular biology. As I've written before, if you are a complete amateur and don't understand a subject, don't demonstrate the Dunning-Kruger effect by writing a book about it and proving your ignorance to everyone else! "

- Dr. Donald Prothero
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