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Atheism vs. the Quran
#31
RE: Atheism vs. the Quran
(December 12, 2010 at 6:39 am)Rayaan Wrote: One of the reasons for the apparent contradictions are mainly because they left out certain verses that come before or after the given verses, which are necessary to understand the correct meaning of the passages. Also, the skeptics have used a poor translation from Arabic to English and thereby making it easier to distort the original meaning of the verses.
You honestly aren't the least bit bothered by the level of contortion necessary of Quranic passages to make it passable as relative to reality?
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#32
RE: Atheism vs. the Quran
Then how do you explain that christians and jews go to hell and apparently also don't go to hell, when they die
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#33
RE: Atheism vs. the Quran
(December 12, 2010 at 10:49 pm)Ashendant Wrote: Then how do you explain that christians and jews go to hell and apparently also don't go to hell, when they die

It's kinda both. They go to "Heck", where their darned souls will be subjected to the minor irritations of Phil, the Prince of Insufficient Light.
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#34
RE: Atheism vs. the Quran
1. Science in the Quran
Science you say?
Lets see..
Quote:"So let man observe from what he was created.
He was created from a fluid, ejected,
Emerging from between the backbone and the ribs."
At-Tariq(86:5,6,7)
Very scientific, really...
What about this one?
Quote:"And He has cast into the earth firmly set mountains, lest it shift with you, and [made] rivers and roads, that you may be guided,"
Mountains prevents earth quakes(or any kind of shift).. Right... Panic

2. The inimitable language of the Quran
Well, thats just a lie... Quran is yet another cheap poetry. Not even close to silmarilllon's elegancy.

3. The historical information on the Quran
Read to learn the true history of quran..
http://www.turandursun.net/index.php?opt...38&lang=en
4. The beautiful character of Muhammad (pbuh)
Pedophilia is really a beatiful feature...
From Sahih Al-Bukhari(he is not an infidel or something btw, a trusted schollar and his hadith collections are accepted as "most trusted"..)

Aisha Wrote:"Narrated Aisha: The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age."

5. No rational arguments which support that Muhammad is the author of the Quran
Wtf?





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#35
RE: Atheism vs. the Quran
(December 12, 2010 at 11:09 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote:
(December 12, 2010 at 10:49 pm)Ashendant Wrote: Then how do you explain that christians and jews go to hell and apparently also don't go to hell, when they die

It's kinda both. They go to "Heck", where their darned souls will be subjected to the minor irritations of Phil, the Prince of Insufficient Light.
-Footnote, Dilbert, Scott Adams


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#36
RE: Atheism vs. the Quran
(December 2, 2010 at 7:37 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:In other words, tell me why you think that the Quran is not a revelation from God,


Because there is no evidence that there is any god. First things first, amigo.

but then[/font] is there any evidence that god does not exist?[font=Times New Roman]
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#37
RE: Atheism vs. the Quran
Major Necro.

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#38
RE: Atheism vs. the Quran
Necro as fuck, but that image is awesome as fuck, too.
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#39
RE: Atheism vs. the Quran
(December 2, 2010 at 5:55 pm)Rayaan Wrote: In In other words, tell me why you think that the Quran is not a revelation from God, and then, support your theory of the Quran by using historical evidence and/or by using logical arguments.
Well, the fact that there are no gods is a pretty conclusive.

(December 2, 2010 at 5:55 pm)Rayaan Wrote: If the Quran is not a revelation, then what is it?
It's a book. Just a book.

(December 2, 2010 at 5:55 pm)Rayaan Wrote: And secondly, how would you get around all the points that I mentioned above to support your own theory of the Quran? Can you justify it?
The points you made are nothing remarkable. The works of Jules Verne predicted a lot of shit with spooky accuracy. Maybe you should worship Jules Verne, too.
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#40
RE: Atheism vs. the Quran
I wanna get in on the necro dogpile!

(August 3, 2013 at 1:16 am)TruthSeeker89 Wrote:
(December 2, 2010 at 7:37 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Because there is no evidence that there is any god. First things first, amigo.

but then[/font] is there any evidence that god does not exist?[font=Times New Roman]

Yes.

Your turn.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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