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Mass Shooting In Toronto (updated )
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RE: Mass Shooting In Toronto (updated )
July 24, 2018 at 9:46 am
Let's blame the Canadian healthcare system. 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/p...-1.4757566

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RE: Mass Shooting In Toronto (updated )
July 24, 2018 at 9:53 am
(July 24, 2018 at 9:46 am)mh.brewer Wrote: Let's blame the Canadian healthcare system. 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/p...-1.4757566

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Did he even seek help for his mental illness ?
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RE: Mass Shooting In Toronto (updated )
July 24, 2018 at 10:00 am
(July 24, 2018 at 9:53 am)Tizheruk Wrote:
(July 24, 2018 at 9:46 am)mh.brewer Wrote: Let's blame the Canadian healthcare system. 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/p...-1.4757566

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Did he even seek help for his mental illness ?

Article and family say's he was receiving treatment, unsuccessful treatment.
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RE: Mass Shooting In Toronto (updated )
July 24, 2018 at 10:03 am
(July 24, 2018 at 10:00 am)mh.brewer Wrote:
(July 24, 2018 at 9:53 am)Tizheruk Wrote: Did he even seek help for his mental illness ?

Article and family say's he was receiving treatment, unsuccessful treatment.
Not all treatments will be successful .I have had patients relapse and at time simple not respond .Worst part of the job really  Sad
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RE: Mass Shooting In Toronto (updated )
July 24, 2018 at 11:33 am
(July 23, 2018 at 2:02 pm)Tizheruk Wrote:
(July 23, 2018 at 2:00 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Why not this one?  It seems like any other one is.
Simple that's the reason

Your usually one of the ones starting it!
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RE: Mass Shooting In Toronto
July 24, 2018 at 11:38 am (This post was last modified: July 24, 2018 at 11:42 am by Neo-Scholastic.)
(July 23, 2018 at 10:48 pm)bennyboy Wrote: This is a dumb-fuck argument, akin to "I don't wear seatbelts because I want to be thrown CLEAR."  For every death that's been thwarted by an easily-obtained gun, there are probably hundreds of accidental child shooting deaths every year.

Perhaps my position would not seem so inane to you if media reports of citizen "good-guy-with-gun" stories were more widely reported.

Examples of Thwarted Attackes

The above list only considers incidents related to mass shootings. Defensive gun use statistics can be found here:

Defensive Gun Use

Now it is legitimate to have different interpretations of data. That is not what you are doing. You are resorting to insults in lieu of reasoned debate.

(July 23, 2018 at 4:28 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(July 23, 2018 at 10:21 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: So much for those strict Canadian gun control laws...
Generalizing on the basis of a small sample is pretty piss poor reasoning, even for you, Neo.

At the time a one-liner seemed appropriate but probably wasn't the wisest response. Kind of like posting a meme. Hopefully, the above links would at least give you some assurance that I am drawing my opinions from credible data.

Yes, there are accidents involving children. That is a separate issue and it seems to me that stiffer penalties for irresponsible gun ownership are in order.
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RE: Mass Shooting In Toronto (updated )
July 24, 2018 at 11:39 am
Woof, this guy seemed to be pretty mentally unstable. Bad situation all around.
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RE: Mass Shooting In Toronto (updated )
July 24, 2018 at 12:16 pm (This post was last modified: July 24, 2018 at 12:17 pm by Amarok.)
Congrats Neo you can show some outliers some of which your own Washington post source casts doubt on that doesn't refute Benny's point .So your point not made or at lest extremely weak compared to the lack of such incidents if NRA dogma were true
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RE: Mass Shooting In Toronto (updated )
July 24, 2018 at 1:42 pm
Man, I feel bad for that guy's family.
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RE: Mass Shooting In Toronto (updated )
July 24, 2018 at 1:46 pm
I know must be awful thinking you loved one did something like this because he was not in his right state of mind .Then having to live with the fact he's dead .
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