Why We don't take your Holy Scriptures Seriously

[Drich]

 that all you post amounts to..  charts, graphs, how other religions perform.. all crap.. you don't respect the bible for the same reason you personally attack anyone who can defend it. The bible represents a single attempt from God to reconcile with us, and if you can discredit the bible in your mind it is ok to also dismiss God. as you clearly think the two are linked.

(meaning God would not allow his holy writing to be disrespected, because you can= no God.) Even now your OP is riddled with attempts at failed logic/reason why you shouldn't believe, based on the idea that the bible should be more than it is. when in fact the bible is as valuable as any map. extremely valuable if the map is telling you how to get where you want to go and worthless if you have no desire to get where the map points! However it seems you think the bible is apart of God. that is a 6th century church idea that died with the reformation. Disrespecting the bible is not disrespecting God. challenging the bible is not challenging God.

What's more Challenging the bible and calling into question every aspect of belief and what the bible says is recommended in the bible itself. you not treating it as a holy book is nothing new and for those who really know the bible also know it is not God. it never claimes to be.

Wow, Drich. You couldn't have missed my point more. My OP doesn't say anything about "why you shouldn't believe." It was about why I don't take ancient religious texts seriously (with emphasis on the Bible). I was careful to say exactly what I meant.

I like ancient Greek philosophy, especially Plato. I think Plato's books contain a lot of valuable insights. But some of it is laughable. I also read ancient Hindu religious texts. Same there; plenty of insights to be had. But also plenty of logic fails and superstition. I plan on approaching the Bible as I would any ancient text. That means expressing respect for the insights, talking about the cultural origin of various stories, and (when it is warranted) LOLing at some silly shit. With this thread, I wanted to respond to some concerns Neo had voiced in the other thread without bogging that thread down with debate.

It's all well and good that you think it is okay to question the Bible. I will be doing that. But I won't be giving any absurd verses special treatment, as many Christians are prone to do.

I simply matured your initial thought on why you should not take the scripture seriously to it's ultimate conclusion... You associate God with the book. if you can crap on the book you can crap on God and any God you can crap on is not worthy of worship was the chain of thought I pointed out from your post..

[Foxaèr]

I simply matured your initial thought on why you should not take the scripture seriously to it's ultimate conclusion... You associate God with the book. if you can crap on the book you can crap on God and any God you can crap on is not worthy of worship was the chain of thought I pointed out from your post..

By all means, other than ridiculously knocking on an imaginary door for a schizophrenic voice to speak to me, I doubt you have much to offer in terms of evidence beyond a fictional book.

[vulcanlogician]

I simply matured your initial thought on why you should not take the scripture seriously to it's ultimate conclusion... You associate God with the book. if you can crap on the book you can crap on God and any God you can crap on is not worthy of worship was the chain of thought I pointed out from your post..

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No YOU associate God with the book. I've always thought that (in the unlikely case God turned out to be real) he would be like nothing described in any holy book, including yours.

[Drich]

I simply matured your initial thought on why you should not take the scripture seriously to it's ultimate conclusion... You associate God with the book. if you can crap on the book you can crap on God and any God you can crap on is not worthy of worship was the chain of thought I pointed out from your post..

By all means, other than ridiculously knocking on an imaginary door for a schizophrenic voice to speak to me, I doubt you have much to offer in terms of evidence beyond a fictional book.

I'm sorry what made you think I was speaking to you or addressing or modifying your thoughts? If you knew I was addressing someone else then why interject with terms and conditions of a challenge no one has yet discussed? are you retarded or just socially inept?

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I simply matured your initial thought on why you should not take the scripture seriously to it's ultimate conclusion... You associate God with the book. if you can crap on the book you can crap on God and any God you can crap on is not worthy of worship was the chain of thought I pointed out from your post..

(my bold)

No YOU associate God with the book. I've always thought that (in the unlikely case God turned out to be real) he would be like nothing described in any holy book, including yours.

glob... Sorry to take the conversation just two step forward of where you are.. I did not know I would loose you on your own subject matter.

So Go ahead finish your thoughts and I will connect the dots for you.

[Foxaèr]

I'm sorry what made you think I was speaking to you or addressing or modifying your thoughts? If you knew I was addressing someone else then why interject with terms and conditions of a challenge no one has yet discussed? are you retarded or just socially inept?

The great thing about this forum is that your posts are public. You don't have to be directing anything toward me, and I can still jump in with my logic to inform you of how utterly ignorant you are for believing in a god that is non-distinguishable from a delusion.

[Mystic]

Rather, even if we lost all historical records, God is proven, his name proven, and expectation of relief proven, and the structure of household of the reminder proven, him proving things through a revelation proven by logic, and God's guiding and manifesting the truth proven, all these are proven in Quran, and even the fact they would have an exact consistent number, every family of the reminder having 12 Successors to the founder, is proven.

Lest we let deceivers make us forget the truth, God would prove it, and show true history, whether we can prove it or not through alternative means, is something else.

And Abu Baker and Umar didn't burn hadiths to protect Quran and have no one be confused as to what is Quran and hadiths, like Sunnis claim.  They did so knowing they could not distort it so they attacked the Sunnah and burned hadiths down and forbid people to write it.

And when people resorted to writing commentary in Quran to pass on the Sunnah, Uthman collected all the Qurans and burned them.

The war is against the truth. And there was no Jewish tribes killed, rather, those so called Jewish tribes went underground and there was no execution. Rather, they worked with the Jinn Worshippers, with magic and darken the hearts, and put locks and they inherited the sorcery attributed to Sulaiman by devils.

This truth is real, and it's apparent if you just reflect over the hate towards the reminder's family and the household of revelation that is currently being spread by Muslims where as they deny their station, give lip service to them being scholars they love, and then attack their lovers for believing their God given stations.

Could you please tell me, proven to whom?

The claim you made is so loose and ambigious, that it begs the question: what the hell are you speaking about?
You just said that:

1-God is proven
2-His name is proven
3-The Shiite faith (what you refer to as "the family of the reminder" proven)

What the hell? Do you really expect others -members on this forum and visitors- to buy into suck ambiguous claims that don't even make sense?

Very strange. But aren't all your topics and posts, ambigious claims without a single proof even to other Muslims?
Delusional to the max. But isn't your cult -that you hide its name- is?

To every servant of God who turns to God sincerely and seeks a path to him, and wishes to be reminded of the truth, and prefers the truth over their conjecture and dark desires.

[Minimalist]

Finally you hit the nail on the head.  You have to be batshit crazy already to believe such utter fucking nonsense.

[Mystic]

Finally you hit the nail on the head.  You have to be batshit crazy already to believe such utter fucking nonsense.

You have to be in love to be reminded of God and his proofs.  The problem is you are use to the stench to the envious tree, you cannot see the evil of your attitude.

As soon as you choose love, all the falsehood will disappear and vanish.

[WinterHold]

Could you please tell me, proven to whom?

The claim you made is so loose and ambigious, that it begs the question: what the hell are you speaking about?
You just said that:

1-God is proven
2-His name is proven
3-The Shiite faith (what you refer to as "the family of the reminder" proven)

What the hell? Do you really expect others -members on this forum and visitors- to buy into suck ambiguous claims that don't even make sense?

Very strange. But aren't all your topics and posts, ambigious claims without a single proof even to other Muslims?
Delusional to the max. But isn't your cult -that you hide its name- is?

To every servant of God who turns to God sincerely and seeks a path to him, and wishes to be reminded of the truth, and prefers the truth over their conjecture and dark desires.

The biggest insult you can give for God, is spamming his creations with what you think is the truth.
You are not serving God. You are serving your ego. If you wanted to serve God; you will respect him; and not turn his scriptures into a joke by spamming people with it until they are irritated.

I'll give you an example: Samoeel is a Christian fella. He thinks he is a "prophet" of some sort.
He is an attention whore. So he goes to strangers in the street and scream "Jesus" in their ears. His day is just this: walking to strangers and trolling them by screaming "Jesus" in their ears.

Is that a good Christian, or an illogical delusional fella that needs to get a life?

That is called "Trolling" people into faith; since other methods failed.

[Minimalist]

Once again, you are correct but you can't seem to learn the lesson.