Any room for atheists in the Republican Party??..

[Tiberius]

(1st January 2011 02:36)Ashendant Wrote:  Do you want to risk dooming humanity then? also even if it's fake in the end result it's a better and cleaner world to live in

Hey, if you can do it through private charity that I'm not forced into donating to, go right ahead. I personally don't want my tax money wasted on things that haven't been properly investigated yet. The world I live in is clean enough for me at the moment, and the new advances of technology mean we get cleaner energy anyway. I don't see any evidence that we are heading for a disaster.

[Ubermensch]

(1st January 2011 02:26)Tiberius Wrote:  Global warming isn't going to destroy the planet...it'll destroy humans on the planet. Whether that is a good thing or not is debatable. Anyway, I am against any government spending where all the facts are not known. In the case of global warming, I remain skeptical about whether humans are actually causing it or not.

Better safe than sorry. Money isn't everything.

[TheDarkestOfAngels]

(1st January 2011 02:54)Tiberius Wrote:  Hey, if you can do it through private charity that I'm not forced into donating to, go right ahead. I personally don't want my tax money wasted on things that haven't been properly investigated yet. The world I live in is clean enough for me at the moment, and the new advances of technology mean we get cleaner energy anyway. I don't see any evidence that we are heading for a disaster.

I'm sorry, but all the climate scientsts who aren't working for the people responsible for the problem are all agreeing that there is an enormous problem.
I don't think the planet is going to die, but there's plenty of evidence that a lot of people and ecosystems are going to crash and burn sometime within the next few generations thanks to everything.
Scientists have been aware of what's going on for more than three decades now.

[Ashendant]

(1st January 2011 02:54)Tiberius Wrote:  

(1st January 2011 02:36)Ashendant Wrote:  Do you want to risk dooming humanity then? also even if it's fake in the end result it's a better and cleaner world to live in

Hey, if you can do it through private charity that I'm not forced into donating to, go right ahead. I personally don't want my tax money wasted on things that haven't been properly investigated yet. The world I live in is clean enough for me at the moment, and the new advances of technology mean we get cleaner energy anyway. I don't see any evidence that we are heading for a disaster.

That will get us nowhere if people are capable of killing someone for a few bucks they won't care enough for Humanity to save the world.

You can thank the EU socialist directives for being clean enough.(you live in the UK right?)

[HeyItsZeus]

(1st January 2011 02:26)Tiberius Wrote:  Global warming isn't going to destroy the planet...it'll destroy humans on the planet. Whether that is a good thing or not is debatable. Anyway, I am against any government spending where all the facts are not known. In the case of global warming, I remain skeptical about whether humans are actually causing it or not.

It's not a matter of "Are we causing global warming"!!!!!!! It's a matter of; should we continue to create an unhealthy environment or create a cleaner, healthier one (which is cheaper in the long run may I add)

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(1st January 2011 03:16)TheDarkestOfAngels Wrote:  

(1st January 2011 02:54)Tiberius Wrote:  Hey, if you can do it through private charity that I'm not forced into donating to, go right ahead. I personally don't want my tax money wasted on things that haven't been properly investigated yet. The world I live in is clean enough for me at the moment, and the new advances of technology mean we get cleaner energy anyway. I don't see any evidence that we are heading for a disaster.

I'm sorry, but all the climate scientsts who aren't working for the people responsible for the problem are all agreeing that there is an enormous problem.
I don't think the planet is going to die, but there's plenty of evidence that a lot of people and ecosystems are going to crash and burn sometime within the next few generations thanks to everything.
Scientists have been aware of what's going on for more than three decades now.

Some peoples skulls are too thick. Sometimes atheists forget that their "beliefs" are not based on 100% sure facts and that they choose to retain that "belief" anyways based on GOOD ENOUGH evidence and assumptions.

[Tiberius]

(1st January 2011 21:12)HeyItsZeus Wrote:  It's not a matter of "Are we causing global warming"!!!!!!! It's a matter of; should we continue to create an unhealthy environment or create a cleaner, healthier one (which is cheaper in the long run may I add)

I would argue that those two are one and the same. There isn't any conclusive evidence that what we are doing is harming the environment in such a way that causes global warming, so it is very much an issue of "Are we causing global warming?" (i.e. climate / environmental change).

In any case, this isn't an issue for governments to get involved in. It is an issue for the people if individuals (or groups of individuals) want to do something about it. I don't recycle, mostly because I don't have the time, but also because the council who come around to collect it usually find some excuse not to take it, meaning I have a build-up of trash that I eventually have to tip into the main trashcans anyway. I'm not against recycling in any way, if that is what people want to do to get rid of their trash; just don't force people to do it.

[Rev. Rye]

(28th December 2010 19:52)dave4shmups Wrote:  Please don't take offense at the question, but it seems to me that there are more religious conservatives in the Republican party then in any other political party in this country. I could be wrong, but here's the thing-I like Republican ideas, I just DON'T like people like Glenn Beck, and Gingrich in the party who think that secular Americans are destroying the country. And these ARE people who are very active in the party. I am with the Republican party on health care, the environment, and foreign policy, but it just seems to me like there's not a lot of room for secular Americans within the party. Perhaps that's just the image I'm getting from the media.

Here in Denver, we have conservative columnist David Harsanyi who is an Atheist. I'd like to learn about more Republicans who are, or at least who don't cling to any religious beliefs.

Well, the Constitution Party somehow takes that aspect Beyond the Impossible.

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