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Convert me if you can
RE: Convert me if you can
You were warned about straying off topic here and it would behoove you not to openly rebuke an admin/moderator unless you have your facts straight, because we usually do. He has been warned and if he can't calm down will have to fight his way out of the gauntlet. If you would like your verbal warnings to turn into actual warnings continue to derail the thread and respond to personal attacks. The correct only response to a personal attack is to either walk away and not take it personal or report it (which has been done) I apologize if the post moderation is a little more sluggish than instantaneous as of late, but we've had a huge influx of people and at the same time are trying to expand. We appreciate your patience in this matter... that will be all Big Grin

Following this moderation please keep it on topic. If you have a questions for an admin/moderator, please send a PM, thank you
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post

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Can't convert you to atheism, only deconvert you from some religion.
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(May 12, 2011 at 11:11 am)Napoleon666 Wrote: C'mon tackattack, isn't there a line between insults and threats? Why is this barbarian still allowed to post?
And when have I ever been warned before? I admit i was 'f'ing and blinding a little too much, i accept that and apoligise for it, but when someone is blatently saying "i'll smash your face and teeth in" why is no one paying a blind bit of notice?

I'm watching this. Alemcodom should shape up or ship out. It will happen, voluntarily or involuntarily.

Use the "Report Post" button when you're confronted with "i'll smash your face and teeth in", don't feed the troll with your own defense. Let us feed it. Devil
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*Removed*
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You boys better get civil or our beloved moderators will become anal Big Grin
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Well, I don't know if you converted Paladin, but I am DEFINITELY ready to convert to such a peaceful and civilized religion such as Islam.


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(December 28, 2010 at 4:20 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: What seems to set Islam apart from Christianity is the question of what Jesus was (prophet or divine intercessor).  The Christians have made their case to me which includes:

* Supposed "eye witness accounts"
* Supposed "historical documents"
* A church established by the apostles and disciples that knew Jesus or lived in his lifetime.

None of this can establish that Jesus is the incarnation of God the Son, even theoretically. The core doctrines of christianity are so obviously made up that one can't think of a good reason to consider them. 

Even if we grant that the supposed historical documents about Jesus to be 100% factually accurate + the eye witnesses are magnificiently honest and reliable, it doesn't follow the christian godhead (the trinity) is real. Anything else christians gave you?

(December 28, 2010 at 4:20 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote:  Islam seems to have no substance whatsoever 

Rejecting the chrisitian godhead doesn't require any substance whatsoever. There are more important issues for the Qur'an to adress than arguing against a mythological remnant of greek philosophy such as the trinity.
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(August 12, 2022 at 6:18 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: None of this can establish that Jesus is the incarnation of God the Son, even theoretically. The core doctrines of christianity are so obviously made up that one can't think of a good reason to consider them. 

Nothing can establish that Mohammed flew to the sky on a winged donkey or that he split the Moon, and yet you believe in it.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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(August 12, 2022 at 6:26 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Nothing can establish that Mohammed flew to the sky

This is not in the same ballpark as claiming a person is literally God, and that the same person resurrected from the dead to offer salvation to all humanity. 

The prophet PBUH travelling on the buraq during the Night journey is not something an omnipotent deity can't do. If humans are capable of making airplanes and missiles, what prevents God from making this happen?
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(August 12, 2022 at 6:33 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: what prevents God from making this happen?

The very fact that such claimed feats are stuck in the past.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
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