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RE: The argument against God
January 20, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Damn, are you saying my history teachers lied to me? XD
But you're right, probably not the best example. First thing I could think of that involved greed and scientific advancement. And I meant his theories about the circumference of the earth, sorry for not being clear.
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RE: The argument against God
January 20, 2009 at 4:02 pm
It's ok. I had to ask though. There is enough misleading info on the internet already  You never know these days!
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RE: The argument against God
January 20, 2009 at 4:05 pm
(January 20, 2009 at 3:58 pm)Eilonnwy Wrote: Damn, are you saying my history teachers lied to me? XD
But you're right, probably not the best example. First thing I could think of that involved greed and scientific advancement. And I meant his theories about the circumference of the earth, sorry for not being clear. Tsk, you darn atheists and your Victorian myths 
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RE: The argument against God
January 20, 2009 at 4:10 pm
(This post was last modified: January 20, 2009 at 4:10 pm by Eilonnwy.)
I had one teacher in 7th grade who taught a lot of myths that I discovered to be false later on. That shit pissed me off. I can't think off the top what bullshit he perpetuated, I've blocked that grade from my mind.
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RE: The argument against God
January 20, 2009 at 6:22 pm
(January 16, 2009 at 12:08 pm)dagda Wrote: It came to me as I was sitting around. I havn't really ever heard a really convincing argument against the existence of a god. I was intreaged and thought the best place to come in my search was an atheist forum. So, anyone got any good ones?
By the way, I do belive in a god, just keeping an open mind.
I prefer not to give you an argument.
I prefer to say that it is far more probable that a supernatural, divine, invisible etc.etc. being doesn't actually exist.
 A man is born to a virgin mother, lives, dies, comes alive again and then disappears into the clouds to become his Dad. How likely is that?
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RE: The argument against God
January 21, 2009 at 2:20 pm
(January 20, 2009 at 6:22 pm)bozo Wrote: I prefer not to give you an argument.
I prefer to say that it is far more probable that a supernatural, divine, invisible etc.etc. being doesn't actually exist. Is that not an argument, though? 
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RE: The argument against God
January 21, 2009 at 3:05 pm
Technically, he doesn't have to give an argument. He's at the default position of "Bullshit, till you prove it with real evidence." Mosts theists don't seem to understand they have the burden of proof
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RE: The argument against God
January 21, 2009 at 3:30 pm
(January 21, 2009 at 2:20 pm)DD_8630 Wrote: (January 20, 2009 at 6:22 pm)bozo Wrote: I prefer not to give you an argument.
I prefer to say that it is far more probable that a supernatural, divine, invisible etc.etc. being doesn't actually exist. Is that not an argument, though?
No,it's a statement. It's about " probability ".
A man is born to a virgin mother, lives, dies, comes alive again and then disappears into the clouds to become his Dad. How likely is that?
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RE: The argument against God
January 21, 2009 at 3:45 pm
(January 21, 2009 at 3:30 pm)bozo Wrote: (January 21, 2009 at 2:20 pm)DD_8630 Wrote: (January 20, 2009 at 6:22 pm)bozo Wrote: I prefer not to give you an argument.
I prefer to say that it is far more probable that a supernatural, divine, invisible etc.etc. being doesn't actually exist. Is that not an argument, though?
No,it's a statement. It's about " probability ". An argument is simply a series of statements that attempts to convince the opponent of the proponent's position (or otherwise justify/refute a claim). Pointing out the staggering improbability of a claim, while not the most rigorous of refutations, constitutes such an attempt. No?
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RE: The argument against God
January 21, 2009 at 3:49 pm
(January 21, 2009 at 3:45 pm)DD_8630 Wrote: (January 21, 2009 at 3:30 pm)bozo Wrote: (January 21, 2009 at 2:20 pm)DD_8630 Wrote: (January 20, 2009 at 6:22 pm)bozo Wrote: I prefer not to give you an argument.
I prefer to say that it is far more probable that a supernatural, divine, invisible etc.etc. being doesn't actually exist. Is that not an argument, though?
No,it's a statement. It's about " probability ". An argument is simply a series of statements that attempts to convince the opponent of the proponent's position (or otherwise justify/refute a claim). Pointing out the staggering improbability of a claim, while not the most rigorous of refutations, constitutes such an attempt. No? You've got my statement, you'll get nothing more. Deal with it.
A man is born to a virgin mother, lives, dies, comes alive again and then disappears into the clouds to become his Dad. How likely is that?
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