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Arabs before Islam: video.
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RE: Arabs before Islam: video.
[Image: icon_quote.jpg]Ranjr:
[Image: 5%20Stars.png]I'll hold out for the Arabs after Islam video.[Image: 5%20Stars.png]


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RE: Arabs before Islam: video.
(September 29, 2021 at 6:24 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(September 29, 2021 at 6:15 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Competition in life will always exist, even in humans. But that does not mean in any context humans always have to default to violence or oppression.

Fighting is not competition. When a police officer shoots a gangster it is not competition.
When America butchers Afghanies for 20 years straight it is not competition.
When ISIS blows civilians it is not competition.


It's a regulation of combat: "if you bomb me for bombing you first; I will butcher your people for 20 years straight"-American Foreign Policy.

And with all your bluster, and far too much of humanity for that matter, your game of one upmanship based on labels that hardly put a dent in our planet's history, much less that of our universe, is laughable. Proclaim all you wish that you are the victim. Everyone in the world does that, and that is not where understanding or empathy overlap.
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RE: Arabs before Islam: video.
(September 29, 2021 at 3:59 am)WinterHold Wrote: This classy video is describing the history of Arabia before Islam:





From a historical prespective; ancient Arabs were mostly sexist and nomadic tribes that even buried their own daughters alive; until Islam came from Allah and transformed these people into a golden new age of prosperity, marking history forever.

Nice video! Thank you for sharing.

Your interpretation is clearly not what we see.

Yes, the Arabian Peninsula was split up by many tribes with their infighting and Islam brought some semblance of unity to them.... not unlike the unity that the video shows Judaism bringing.
Islam, however, seems to have brought with it the divine sanctioning of many of the old sexist (and not only) practices... I can understand how that would be far more palatable to those tribes than Judaism, making it stick more.
Still, the stories claim that Islam was spread in Arabia mostly by war and conquest.

Once all the fighting among the Arabian tribes was done, it was time to bring the fight to the rest of the world... because why not? Like with most religions, you gain god brownie points when you enforce your beliefs upon others, right?

It's as if god is incapable of providing its message in a peaceful and clear way to everyone on the planet at the same time and needs the help of warring people to do that. Diablo
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RE: Arabs before Islam: video.
It seems that God’s revelation to Mohammed was very successful in turning savage, ignorant Bedouins into savage, ignorant Muslims.

It’s those little victories that make all the difference.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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RE: Arabs before Islam: video.
Talking about Arabia... when you look at the Aladdin cartoon and then live movie - is that not actually India?

Like the little monkeys on the streets (or are there little monkeys also roaming streets inf Arabia?), and then tiger (ok he's more like a pet that could have come from overseas), architecture, and even the clothes on people seem more like India.

So it's more like "The Indian Nights"



teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Arabs before Islam: video.
I believe the southern part of the Arabian peninsula has native monkeys. Macaques, if I remember rightly.

Boru
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RE: Arabs before Islam: video.
(September 30, 2021 at 7:52 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I believe the southern part of the Arabian peninsula has native monkeys. Macaques, if I remember rightly.

Boru
I  know they get Hamadryas Baboons in Arabia not sure about Macaques.

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