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Poll: Would you support Geoengineerng?
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No
53.85%
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Yes
30.77%
4 30.77%
Yes, but it must be strictly regulated.
15.38%
2 15.38%
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Geoengineering ...
#21
RE: Geoengineering ...
(March 16, 2011 at 6:55 pm)HeyItsZeus Wrote: But think about the forms of life that we could harm with it that wouldn't die out along with us... they count too.

They stop counting when we die out.


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#22
RE: Geoengineering ...
(March 16, 2011 at 6:55 pm)HeyItsZeus Wrote:
(March 16, 2011 at 6:51 pm)theVOID Wrote: Or just wait until we've got no other options... That way it doesn't matter if it might not work or might do harm, we're going to die anyway.

But think about the forms of life that we could harm with it that wouldn't die out along with us... they count too.

Who gives a shit? 99.9% of every species that has ever lived has died out for some reason, large numbers in climate extremes, this would be no different.
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#23
RE: Geoengineering ...
(March 16, 2011 at 7:02 pm)theVOID Wrote:
(March 16, 2011 at 6:55 pm)HeyItsZeus Wrote:
(March 16, 2011 at 6:51 pm)theVOID Wrote: Or just wait until we've got no other options... That way it doesn't matter if it might not work or might do harm, we're going to die anyway.

But think about the forms of life that we could harm with it that wouldn't die out along with us... they count too.

Who gives a shit? 99.9% of every species that has ever lived has died out for some reason, large numbers in climate extremes, this would be no different.

Yes but in this case we would be causing it. It's different. And they never stop counting. Shame on you.
Quote:"An individual has not started living until he can rise above the narrow confines of his individualistic concerns to the broader concerns of all humanity. "
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#24
RE: Geoengineering ...
(March 16, 2011 at 7:40 pm)HeyItsZeus Wrote: Yes but in this case we would be causing it. It's different. And they never stop counting. Shame on you.

We cause it or it happens naturally, what's the difference? Nature has some functions that cause devastation to it's organic segment, we could be one of those functions, we might have an opportunity to stop the climate we created through geoengingeering or we might fail, either way the result is the same.

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#25
RE: Geoengineering ...
(March 16, 2011 at 7:40 pm)HeyItsZeus Wrote:
(March 16, 2011 at 7:02 pm)theVOID Wrote:
(March 16, 2011 at 6:55 pm)HeyItsZeus Wrote:
(March 16, 2011 at 6:51 pm)theVOID Wrote: Or just wait until we've got no other options... That way it doesn't matter if it might not work or might do harm, we're going to die anyway.

But think about the forms of life that we could harm with it that wouldn't die out along with us... they count too.

Who gives a shit? 99.9% of every species that has ever lived has died out for some reason, large numbers in climate extremes, this would be no different.

Yes but in this case we would be causing it. It's different. And they never stop counting. Shame on you.
They stop counting when we stop counting them, either out of compulsion or fancy. You tell me they will count themselves if we stop counting them?

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#26
RE: Geoengineering ...
(March 16, 2011 at 7:55 pm)theVOID Wrote:
(March 16, 2011 at 7:40 pm)HeyItsZeus Wrote: Yes but in this case we would be causing it. It's different. And they never stop counting. Shame on you.

We cause it or it happens naturally, what's the difference? Nature has some functions that cause devastation to it's organic segment, we could be one of those functions, we might have an opportunity to stop the climate we created through geoengingeering or we might fail, either way the result is the same.

I'm going to stop trying to argue with you now. If you want to consider it a "win" go ahead but I don't feel like dealing with this right now. I only state my opinion with the incorporation of my morals and bias and so do you. To be honest every time I argue with you on these forums there is never a winner so I'm done. You are a smart man, i'll give you that, but do you not see the pointlessness in this as I do? I'm going to move on since I have already stated my opinion. I'll fight with you on some other post.
Quote:"An individual has not started living until he can rise above the narrow confines of his individualistic concerns to the broader concerns of all humanity. "
Martin Luther King, Jr.
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#27
RE: Geoengineering ...
Yeah lets all state our opinions and leave it at that, what a great "discussion" forum that would be.
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#28
RE: Geoengineering ...
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( Just trying to lighten the mood.)
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#29
RE: Geoengineering ...
(March 16, 2011 at 8:56 pm)theVOID Wrote: Yeah lets all state our opinions and leave it at that, what a great "discussion" forum that would be.

Ohhh the drama!
I have nothing left to say that would be of any meaning to you, VOID. Topics like this are complex and you see it as black and white.

"We gon' die!"
"Quick! Fuck the birds! We need to live!"
"OK! Release the chemicals... now!"

Wheres the rationality? I see none.
Quote:"An individual has not started living until he can rise above the narrow confines of his individualistic concerns to the broader concerns of all humanity. "
Martin Luther King, Jr.
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#30
RE: Geoengineering ...
That's a straw man, the birds are just as likely to die as us. Geoengineering might kill some species but if they're all going to die anyway we might as well give it a go.
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