Nuclear missiles in Cuba?

[Anomalocaris]

There is no fundamental adjudicatable difference.   You are living in a legalistic fantasy world, not a real one.

Yes there is a clear difference your the one living in a fantasy world friend 

How much history have you read and what are those?

[The Architect Of Fate]

How much history have you read and what are those?

More then enough and my comment is more then clear enough on the matter

[HappySkeptic]

The problem with ballistic missiles in Cuba is that they could strike the U.S. without giving sufficient warning for a nuclear counter-attack, thus breaking the MAD balance of the cold war. Cuba can and did make alliances with the USSR. That wasn't the problem. The problem was the much greater threat of nuclear Armageddon.

Ukraine wasn't going to ever have NATO nuclear missiles. They gave up the Russian ones. However, in 20 years, I wouldn't be surprised if a "neutral" Ukraine develops their own in secret.

[Anomalocaris]

The problem with ballistic missiles in Cuba is that they could strike the U.S. without giving sufficient warning for a nuclear counter-attack, thus breaking the MAD balance of the cold war.  Cuba can and did make alliances with the USSR.  That wasn't the problem.  The problem was the much greater threat of nuclear Armageddon.

Ukraine wasn't going to ever have NATO nuclear missiles.  They gave up the Russian ones.  However, in 20 years, I wouldn't be surprised if a "neutral" Ukraine develops their own in secret.

Whether Ukraine would ever have had NATO nuclear weapons without the Russian invasion is obviously going to remain unknown.   However, combined with US unilateral withdrawal in 2019 from the treaty with restricted the US from deploying exactly the kind of missile suitable for launching from Ukraine into European Russia certainly makes that possibly too serious for Russian to just wait and see how it develops.

Presence of intermediate range nuclear missile in Ukraine creates exactly the same situation for Moscow as presence of similar missile in Cuba creates for Washington DC, except the time for warning would be a third as long.

[Brian37]

If Russia (hypocritical) or China would want to place nuclear missiles in Cuba, how should the United States react?  If at all?

That is highly unlikely. China doesn't need to do that, they already have tons of nukes that can travel the globe.

Secondly, spy technology is much more sophisticated than it was back then.  The local subs we use and they use are more for show as a deterrent, to keep a stalemate.

Fortunately for the planet's population back then, that Russian put humanity first and told the crew to stand down. Not sure we have another under Putin. 

I would say that China however, is far more likely to accept mutual destruction and less likely to have a scorched earth policy.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Whether Ukraine would ever have had NATO nuclear weapons without the Russian invasion is obviously going to remain unknown.  

There is no evidence there would have been and even if there was that's Ukraine's choice to make.

 However, combined with US unilateral withdrawal in 2019 from the treaty with restricted the US from deploying exactly the kind of missile suitable for launching from Ukraine into European Russia certainly makes that possibly too serious for Russian to just wait and see how it develops.

Nope no possibility of hypothetical nukes (which was a lie in the first place) justifies this invasion.

Presence of intermediate range nuclear missile in Ukraine creates exactly the same situation for Moscow as presence of similar missile in Cuba creates for Washington DC, except the time for warning would be a third as long.

Yup and in both cases both countries acted like irrational idiots.

[HappySkeptic]

Whether Ukraine would ever have had NATO nuclear weapons without the Russian invasion is obviously going to remain unknown.   However, combined with US unilateral withdrawal in 2019 from the treaty with restricted the US from deploying exactly the kind of missile suitable for launching from Ukraine into European Russia certainly makes that possibly too serious for Russian to just wait and see how it develops.

Presence of intermediate range nuclear missile in Ukraine creates exactly the same situation for Moscow as presence of similar missile in Cuba creates for Washington DC, except the time for warning would be a third as long.

I guess Russia is justified in recapturing all of Eastern Europe, just because someone that doesn't like them might one day have nuclear weapons.

I wonder why its neighbors don't like Russia?  Is it because they are all U.S. puppets, or because they know Russia wants the Soviet empire back, and is headed by an unhinged dictator?

We are no longer under a cold war (or weren't until last month).  No-one wants to invade Siberia for shits and giggles.  The only Russian thing under threat is its Imperial pride.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Whether Ukraine would ever have had NATO nuclear weapons without the Russian invasion is obviously going to remain unknown.   However, combined with US unilateral withdrawal in 2019 from the treaty with restricted the US from deploying exactly the kind of missile suitable for launching from Ukraine into European Russia certainly makes that possibly too serious for Russian to just wait and see how it develops.

Presence of intermediate range nuclear missile in Ukraine creates exactly the same situation for Moscow as presence of similar missile in Cuba creates for Washington DC, except the time for warning would be a third as long.

I guess Russia is justified in recapturing all of Eastern Europe, just because someone that doesn't like them might one day have nuclear weapons.

I wonder why its neighbors don't like Russia?  Is it because they are all U.S. puppets, or because they know Russia wants the Soviet empire back, and is headed by an unhinged dictator?

We are no longer under a cold war (or weren't until last month).  No-one wants to invade Siberia for shits and giggles.  The only Russian thing under threat is its Imperial pride.

Yup as well as any country within missile range of it. It's absurd but to make Russia feel safe it's what they would need to do.

[Anomalocaris]

Whether Ukraine would ever have had NATO nuclear weapons without the Russian invasion is obviously going to remain unknown.   However, combined with US unilateral withdrawal in 2019 from the treaty with restricted the US from deploying exactly the kind of missile suitable for launching from Ukraine into European Russia certainly makes that possibly too serious for Russian to just wait and see how it develops.

Presence of intermediate range nuclear missile in Ukraine creates exactly the same situation for Moscow as presence of similar missile in Cuba creates for Washington DC, except the time for warning would be a third as long.

I guess Russia is justified in recapturing all of Eastern Europe, just because someone that doesn't like them might one day have nuclear weapons.

I wonder why its neighbors don't like Russia?  Is it because they are all U.S. puppets, or because they know Russia wants the Soviet empire back, and is headed by an unhinged dictator?

We are no longer under a cold war (or weren't until last month).  No-one wants to invade Siberia for shits and giggles.  The only Russian thing under threat is its Imperial pride.

So we should invite Russian intermediate range ballistic missiles back into cuba then?

[The Architect Of Fate]

So we should invite Russian intermediate range ballistic missiles back into cuba then?

Invite them no. But if Cuba wants those missiles we have no right to say they aren't allowed to have them there.