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RE: Mass shooting in the middle school Vladislav Ribnikar in Belgrade
May 8, 2023 at 12:51 pm
(May 8, 2023 at 12:00 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Twelve miles from my house there was a mass shooting this weekend. Several killed and wounded, including a 5 year old who was shot in the neck and another young child found under his mother's dead body covered in her blood.
I don't give two shits about what the fuck is going on in Macedonia.
The mall where this shooting took place is somewhere my daughter and granddaughter could have been.
You used to just be a pest. Now you are a pain in the ass.
I am sorry, but, in order to solve the problem of mass shootings, we need to properly diagnose it. It doesn't make sense to blame mass shootings on lax gun laws if mass shootings are more common in places with much stricter gun control, such as Macedonia or Norway.
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RE: Mass shooting in the middle school Vladislav Ribnikar in Belgrade
May 8, 2023 at 12:58 pm
(May 8, 2023 at 12:51 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote: (May 8, 2023 at 12:00 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Twelve miles from my house there was a mass shooting this weekend. Several killed and wounded, including a 5 year old who was shot in the neck and another young child found under his mother's dead body covered in her blood.
I don't give two shits about what the fuck is going on in Macedonia.
The mall where this shooting took place is somewhere my daughter and granddaughter could have been.
You used to just be a pest. Now you are a pain in the ass.
I am sorry, but, in order to solve the problem of mass shootings, we need to properly diagnose it. It doesn't make sense to blame mass shootings on lax gun laws if mass shootings are more common in places with much stricter gun control, such as Macedonia or Norway.
Which tells me that Macedonia and Norway need MORE restrictive gun laws.
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RE: Mass shooting in the middle school Vladislav Ribnikar in Belgrade
May 8, 2023 at 12:59 pm
Okay, let's diagnose it. What do the mass shooting problems in macedonia, norway, and the us have in common?
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RE: Mass shooting in the middle school Vladislav Ribnikar in Belgrade
May 8, 2023 at 1:28 pm
(May 8, 2023 at 12:49 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: In an informal "you'd have to be nuts to x" sort of way, I get it. The fact remains. Mental illness is not a good predictor of mass shootings, as most mass shooters are not mentally ill, they are terrorists.
Quote:There is a common misperception amplified by mainstream media and government officials that people “go crazy” or enter some altered state of consciousness and start shooting. Rather, executing murderous plots such as mass shootings at schools, grocery stores, places of worship, and public events requires a mind that is lucid and capable of producing rational thought, planning, and logical cognitive processing.
https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/view/mo...ntally-ill
Terrorist, schmerrorist. Crazy is as crazy does.
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RE: Mass shooting in the middle school Vladislav Ribnikar in Belgrade
May 8, 2023 at 2:40 pm
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(May 8, 2023 at 12:59 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Okay, let's diagnose it. What do the mass shooting problems in macedonia, norway, and the us have in common?
A madman with a gun, obviously. Now, how they get their gun is another question. In the US, as far as I know, basically around 50% of mass shooters get their guns legally and the other 50% get them illegally. Now, how it is in Macedonia and Norway, I don't know.
Andrija Drežnjak, the shooter of the mass shooting in Đakovo in 2019, allegedly bought his gun on the black market. I have no idea whether guns on the black market here in Croatia are manufactured legally or illegally.
Kosta Kečmanović allegedly stole the gun from his father, who got his gun legally.
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RE: Mass shooting in the middle school Vladislav Ribnikar in Belgrade
May 8, 2023 at 2:51 pm
(May 8, 2023 at 1:28 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (May 8, 2023 at 12:49 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: In an informal "you'd have to be nuts to x" sort of way, I get it. The fact remains. Mental illness is not a good predictor of mass shootings, as most mass shooters are not mentally ill, they are terrorists.
https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/view/mo...ntally-ill
Terrorist, schmerrorist. Crazy is as crazy does.
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You claimed that people with a diagnozed mental illness should not be allowed to have guns because they are significantly more likely to commit a mass shooting, right? Well, the evidence does not support that.
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RE: Mass shooting in the middle school Vladislav Ribnikar in Belgrade
May 8, 2023 at 2:54 pm
(May 8, 2023 at 12:58 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (May 8, 2023 at 12:51 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote: I am sorry, but, in order to solve the problem of mass shootings, we need to properly diagnose it. It doesn't make sense to blame mass shootings on lax gun laws if mass shootings are more common in places with much stricter gun control, such as Macedonia or Norway.
Which tells me that Macedonia and Norway need MORE restrictive gun laws.
Boru
If most mass shooters there get their guns on a black market, and those guns are produced illegally, more restrictive gun laws obviously won't help. I suspect that's the case, although I don't have hard data confirming that.
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RE: Mass shooting in the middle school Vladislav Ribnikar in Belgrade
May 8, 2023 at 2:55 pm
(May 8, 2023 at 12:00 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Twelve miles from my house there was a mass shooting this weekend. Several killed and wounded, including a 5 year old who was shot in the neck and another young child found under his mother's dead body covered in her blood.
I don't give two shits about what the fuck is going on in Macedonia.
The mall where this shooting took place is somewhere my daughter and granddaughter could have been.
You used to just be a pest. Now you are a pain in the ass.
To be fair... I watched the news... And there were car crashes... And deaths... On the same roads my family and I go on...Just sayin...
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RE: Mass shooting in the middle school Vladislav Ribnikar in Belgrade
May 8, 2023 at 2:59 pm
(May 8, 2023 at 2:55 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: (May 8, 2023 at 12:00 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Twelve miles from my house there was a mass shooting this weekend. Several killed and wounded, including a 5 year old who was shot in the neck and another young child found under his mother's dead body covered in her blood.
I don't give two shits about what the fuck is going on in Macedonia.
The mall where this shooting took place is somewhere my daughter and granddaughter could have been.
You used to just be a pest. Now you are a pain in the ass.
To be fair... I watched the news... And there were car crashes... And deaths... On the same roads my family and I go on...Just sayin...
And which if those were caused by a man armed with an AR-15? You ignorant ass.
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RE: Mass shooting in the middle school Vladislav Ribnikar in Belgrade
May 8, 2023 at 2:59 pm
(May 8, 2023 at 2:51 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote: (May 8, 2023 at 1:28 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Terrorist, schmerrorist. Crazy is as crazy does.
Boru
You claimed that people with a diagnozed mental illness should not be allowed to have guns because they are significantly more likely to commit a mass shooting, right? Well, the evidence does not support that.
So, mass shootings are more likely to be done by people with no aberrant mental processes? This means that Safir Ahamdi Musthaveanibble who shoots up a dozen Israeli schoolchildren because he believes that will create a Palestinian homeland is a perfectly sane, rational person.
Think it through, whydoancha?
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