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[Serious] Ask a firearms enthusiast
#31
RE: Ask a firearms enthusiast
(June 7, 2023 at 4:37 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(June 7, 2023 at 4:35 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: That's a sacrifice the 50 cal operator is willing to make.

I’d like to think if I was going to end someone, I’d want it to be for highly personal reasons.

Boru

There's a lot of posts here (wow y'all are a chatty bunch!) so I'm not going to respond to them all, especially since it's devolved into idle chit-chat.  However I do want to address this, even if it was probably said in jest.

You don't want to kill anyone for personal reasons, ever.  Do not John Wick anything.  Revenge solves nothing and you're still left with hurt/are spreading hurt.  I'll admit that some people might deserve it, but while I don't believe in actual karma there is a kind of social karma that will get them in the end, because they will make themselves miserable.

No, you only kill in self defense to stop the threat because you have no other choice (in defense of others in immediate danger is fine too though.) If it comes down to them or you you pick you, and at that point you just do it like it's your job, like cutting the head off a chicken for dinner.  You can always get emotional over things later.

Carrying and operating is a huge responsibility that many don't take seriously enough, and that's a shame.  I know some get angry when we call them "toys" which is a bit excessive, but I can understand where they're coming from.  I have fun at the range and they are fun to use under the right conditions.

Also, another fun fact.  The limit for drunk driving is .08, and for pilots it's .04.  For us gun owners the limit is just .02, so don't drink and shoot/carry.
~ Scary Guy
"I don't agree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Evelyn Beatrice Hall
"If you're not outraged you're not paying attention." - unknown
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#32
RE: Ask a firearms enthusiast
Idle chit-chat.

Sure wouldn't want conversation on a forum.

Enjoy your stay and please do continue with the snarky remarks.
  
“If you are the smartest person in the room, then you are in the wrong room.” — Confucius
                                      
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#33
RE: Ask a firearms enthusiast
(June 7, 2023 at 8:39 pm)AkiraTheViking Wrote:
(June 7, 2023 at 4:22 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Yeah, the flamethrower thing was a joke. To be clear, I’m not anti-gun (not exactly pro-gun, either). I’m fortunate to live in a country that manages to combine a high rate of gun ownership with fairly extensive gun regulation and a low rate of violent crimes.

Boru

Excuse me, where is this wonderland and how do i migrate there?

NZ.

Where I am, too.
Dying to live, living to die.
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#34
RE: Ask a firearms enthusiast
(June 7, 2023 at 10:52 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Idle chit-chat.

Sure wouldn't want conversation on a forum.  

Enjoy your stay and please do continue with the snarky remarks.

Well, I mean I did use the serious tag.  Though I admit that one should never take life too seriously anyway.  Cool
~ Scary Guy
"I don't agree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Evelyn Beatrice Hall
"If you're not outraged you're not paying attention." - unknown
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#35
RE: Ask a firearms enthusiast
(June 7, 2023 at 8:39 pm)AkiraTheViking Wrote:
(June 7, 2023 at 4:22 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Yeah, the flamethrower thing was a joke. To be clear, I’m not anti-gun (not exactly pro-gun, either). I’m fortunate to live in a country that manages to combine a high rate of gun ownership with fairly extensive gun regulation and a low rate of violent crimes.

Boru

Excuse me, where is this wonderland and how do i migrate there?

New Zealand. You can't immigrate - we're full up.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#36
RE: Ask a firearms enthusiast
(June 7, 2023 at 10:49 pm)Scary Guy Wrote:
(June 7, 2023 at 4:37 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I’d like to think if I was going to end someone, I’d want it to be for highly personal reasons.

Boru

There's a lot of posts here (wow y'all are a chatty bunch!) so I'm not going to respond to them all, especially since it's devolved into idle chit-chat.  However I do want to address this, even if it was probably said in jest.

You don't want to kill anyone for personal reasons, ever.  Do not John Wick anything.  Revenge solves nothing and you're still left with hurt/are spreading hurt.  I'll admit that some people might deserve it, but while I don't believe in actual karma there is a kind of social karma that will get them in the end, because they will make themselves miserable.

No, you only kill in self defense to stop the threat because you have no other choice (in defense of others in immediate danger is fine too though.) If it comes down to them or you you pick you, and at that point you just do it like it's your job, like cutting the head off a chicken for dinner.  You can always get emotional over things later.

Carrying and operating is a huge responsibility that many don't take seriously enough, and that's a shame.  I know some get angry when we call them "toys" which is a bit excessive, but I can understand where they're coming from.  I have fun at the range and they are fun to use under the right conditions.

Also, another fun fact.  The limit for drunk driving is .08, and for pilots it's .04.  For us gun owners the limit is just .02, so don't drink and shoot/carry.

It absolutely was NOT said in jest. Here's a thought - you kill for the reasons you want, and I'll kill for the reasons I want. This isn't something you get to lecture me about.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#37
RE: Ask a firearms enthusiast
(June 8, 2023 at 4:50 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: It absolutely was NOT said in jest. Here's a thought - you kill for the reasons you want, and I'll kill for the reasons I want. This isn't something you get to lecture me about.

Boru

For the record that wasn't aimed at you specifically, but rather more of a general hypothetical to the peanut gallery.  However your response makes me think that maybe you should seek some anger management.  I don't know who wronged you, but do whatever you need to do as long as you're fine with the legal ramifications of those actions.

I think we all have our own lists, but is it really worth it?  Unfortunately sometimes that answer is yes, but hopefully it's a rare answer to a question that never needs asking.  I'm reminded of both Gary Plauché and Marvin Heemeyer among others.
~ Scary Guy
"I don't agree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Evelyn Beatrice Hall
"If you're not outraged you're not paying attention." - unknown
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#38
RE: Ask a firearms enthusiast
(June 8, 2023 at 4:50 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(June 7, 2023 at 10:49 pm)Scary Guy Wrote: There's a lot of posts here (wow y'all are a chatty bunch!) so I'm not going to respond to them all, especially since it's devolved into idle chit-chat.  However I do want to address this, even if it was probably said in jest.

You don't want to kill anyone for personal reasons, ever.  Do not John Wick anything.  Revenge solves nothing and you're still left with hurt/are spreading hurt.  I'll admit that some people might deserve it, but while I don't believe in actual karma there is a kind of social karma that will get them in the end, because they will make themselves miserable.

No, you only kill in self defense to stop the threat because you have no other choice (in defense of others in immediate danger is fine too though.) If it comes down to them or you you pick you, and at that point you just do it like it's your job, like cutting the head off a chicken for dinner.  You can always get emotional over things later.

Carrying and operating is a huge responsibility that many don't take seriously enough, and that's a shame.  I know some get angry when we call them "toys" which is a bit excessive, but I can understand where they're coming from.  I have fun at the range and they are fun to use under the right conditions.

Also, another fun fact.  The limit for drunk driving is .08, and for pilots it's .04.  For us gun owners the limit is just .02, so don't drink and shoot/carry.

It absolutely was NOT said in jest. Here's a thought - you kill for the reasons you want, and I'll kill for the reasons I want. This isn't something you get to lecture me about.

Boru

My original comment was meant more as a general statement to the peanut gallery.  However your response makes me think something deeper is troubling you.

I mean if they deserve it and you're fine with the legal ramifications then sure, you do what you need to do.  I'm reminded of Gary Plauché  .  The only real issue is that these days it might be kind of hard to get a jury that sympathetic.

The main question though is "is it worth it?" and hopefully that answer is no.  Hopefully no one has to ask themselves that question in the first place.
~ Scary Guy
"I don't agree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Evelyn Beatrice Hall
"If you're not outraged you're not paying attention." - unknown
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#39
RE: Ask a firearms enthusiast
‘Vengeance is Boru’s, sayeth the Lord, and mine only if Boru leaves me any.’ - Romans 12:19 (the original translation seems to have been garbled).

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#40
RE: Ask a firearms enthusiast
(June 7, 2023 at 8:39 pm)AkiraTheViking Wrote:
(June 7, 2023 at 4:22 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Yeah, the flamethrower thing was a joke. To be clear, I’m not anti-gun (not exactly pro-gun, either). I’m fortunate to live in a country that manages to combine a high rate of gun ownership with fairly extensive gun regulation and a low rate of violent crimes.

Boru

Excuse me, where is this wonderland and how do i migrate there?

You go past the point where you fall off the southern edge of the world and keep going south for about another fortnight.  Angel
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