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~~FlatAssembler~~ · June 11, 2023 at 1:09 pm

What do you guys here think, what is the relationship between programming languages and natural languages? Up until a few days ago, I thought the relationship was merely superficial and that that can be proven by the fact that Donkey Sentences can exist in human languages and they cannot exist in programming languages. However, a few days ago, I decided to ask a question on Programming Languages StackExchange whether something like a Donkey Sentence can exist in a programming language, and kaya3 claims that Donkey Sentences can exist in any programming language that allows pattern-matching (I don't know any such programming language, though, so I cannot evaluate that claim.).

**BrianSoddingBoru4** · June 11, 2023 at 1:14 pm

I think kaya3 is probably right.

Boru

**Jackalope** · June 11, 2023 at 3:29 pm

I think the number of people on this forum who would have an informed opinion on the matter is indistinguishable from zero.

**arewethereyet** · June 11, 2023 at 3:36 pm

(June 11, 2023 at 3:29 pm)Jackalope Wrote: I think the number of people on this forum who would have an informed opinion on the matter is indistinguishable from zero.

And the number of people on this forum who care is one.

Astreja · June 11, 2023 at 5:11 pm

(June 11, 2023 at 1:09 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote: What do you guys here think, what is the relationship between programming languages and natural languages?

Very, very tenuous. Programming languages have syntax. So does mathematics, but only a particularly barmy group of abstract mathematicians would attempt to hold a conversation in only mathematical terminology.

Natural languages are much more fluid and versatile, and more suitable to real people living real lives in the real world.

~~FlatAssembler~~ · June 11, 2023 at 6:57 pm

(June 11, 2023 at 3:36 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:
(June 11, 2023 at 3:29 pm)Jackalope Wrote: I think the number of people on this forum who would have an informed opinion on the matter is indistinguishable from zero.

And the number of people on this forum who care is one.

I thought that the relationship between programming languages and natural languages is a major topic in modern philosophy. This forum is supposed to be about philosophy.

**BrianSoddingBoru4** · June 11, 2023 at 7:08 pm

(June 11, 2023 at 6:57 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote:
(June 11, 2023 at 3:36 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: And the number of people on this forum who care is one.

I thought that the relationship between programming languages and natural languages is a major topic in modern philosophy. This forum is supposed to be about philosophy.

Could you name six major philosophers who have published papers on this topic?

Boru

**The Valkyrie** · June 12, 2023 at 3:11 am

Blue.

Or, possibly, orange.

~~FlatAssembler~~ · June 12, 2023 at 5:22 pm

(June 11, 2023 at 7:08 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(June 11, 2023 at 6:57 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote: I thought that the relationship between programming languages and natural languages is a major topic in modern philosophy. This forum is supposed to be about philosophy.

Could you name six major philosophers who have published papers on this topic?

Boru

No. I also can't name six philosophers who write about atheism. In fact, I know only one: Keith Augustine. Michael Huemer is an atheist, but, as far as I know, he mainly writes about anarcho-capitalism and sometimes about veganism, rarely does he write about atheism. Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris are not philosophers.

**arewethereyet** · June 12, 2023 at 5:27 pm

List of atheist philosophers - Wikipedia

There have been many philosophers in recorded history who were . This is a list of atheist philosophers with articles in Wikipedia. Living persons in this list are people relevant to their notable activities or public life, and who have publicly identified themselves as atheists.

The list is extensive. Much to long to post here.

You would think that computer guru would know how to Google.

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