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Poll: Is it possible to control time?
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Yes, because God magically defies anything he wants!
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Computers can control time. they're doing it right now!
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1 11.11%
No, because it's mathematically impossible to control time.
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5 55.56%
Watches control time.
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1 11.11%
There is a mathematical formula which controls time.
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1 11.11%
No, because we can't control Jesus.
11.11%
1 11.11%
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#21
RE: Time
(April 9, 2011 at 7:01 pm)Emporion Wrote:
(April 9, 2011 at 6:59 pm)Chuck Wrote: Your point(s) is?

Any time we think we can control time, it is an illusion.


Based on what?

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#22
RE: Time
Everything we do takes time wether it is recorded or not. The recorded data is often used for referencing the time at the time it was recorded. Is that enough or do you want more?
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#23
RE: Time
really?

Can't you just leave star trek in the make-believe world and just ask the stupid unanswerable sci-fi questions to your nerdy friends at youth group?

You pose a yes or no question for a poll and than leave 5 answers choices. Nice job Einstein. Oh and 4 of those answers are nearly as rediculous and open-ended as the question itself. You leave far too many perameters to guess & iterpretation, and your conclusion is simply your own imagination's regurgitation of too many bad sci-fi movies.
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#24
RE: Time
(April 10, 2011 at 2:16 am)Cinjin Cain Wrote: really?

Can't you just leave star trek in the make-believe world and just ask the stupid unanswerable sci-fi questions to your nerdy friends at youth group?

You pose a yes or no question for a poll and than leave 5 answers choices. Nice job Einstein. Oh and 4 of those answers are nearly as rediculous and open-ended as the question itself. You leave far too many perameters to guess & iterpretation, and your conclusion is simply your own imagination's regurgitation of too many bad sci-fi movies.

That was the point. Tongue

"Nice job Einstein" Thank you so much for the pleasant open-ended sarcasm. Ill treasure it forever. Big Grin

What part of "Everything we do takes time wether it is recorded or not. The recorded data is often used for referencing the time at the time it was recorded. Is that enough or do you want more?" would you like me to expand on.
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#25
RE: Time
(April 9, 2011 at 5:54 pm)Emporion Wrote: I wanted to see if people here knew that it's mathematically impossible to control time.

Mathematically, it's trivial to invent a framework in which time is controlled by any number of parameters. Whether or not that framework is a good representation of physical reality is another matter, but there's nothing in the rules of mathematics to stop you inventing it.


ib.me.ub Wrote:Also, the closer you travel to the speed of light will have a bearing on your relative time? (Please correct me if I am wrong).

Nope, you're right! The Lorentz transforms are the equations describing this.

Whether or not this means you can control time really depends on how you want to define control.
Can you make your time intervals appear shorter or longer relative to those measured by someone else? Sure! Is that control in the context of the question? Emporion?
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#26
RE: Time
Time is relative, is it not? As such, time depends on one's frame of reference. Change the frame of reference, and time changes for the observer. Time for a person travelling in a spacecraft at 25,000 mph is not the same as it is for a person sitting behind his desk on Earth.
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#27
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None of the above....Time is an observation and is relative to that observers position in Space. Just what "Time" are you referring to?? Telstra time?? Microsoft time?? UTC time?? Linux time?? Atomic time??

Or the time it takes for you to love? The time it takes to do that unpleasant job?? define please.
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#28
RE: Time
(April 10, 2011 at 6:17 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: None of the above....Time is an observation and is relative to that observers position in Space. Just what "Time" are you referring to?? Telstra time?? Microsoft time?? UTC time?? Linux time?? Atomic time??

Or the time it takes for you to love? The time it takes to do that unpleasant job?? define please.

Time in this case is defined as physical time as stated in earlier posts.

@everyone replying. I had not intended mathematics to be taken so literally. I wrote mathematics because formal logic(I guess I should have clarified) is a subset of mathematics.
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#29
RE: Time
I can't vote. The poll "answers" are too stupid.

Emporion, you are one wacky dude. I feel like I am watching Spongebob stoned when I read your posts. It is like I know it shouldn't make sense, but I try to make sense of it anyway and then I wind up just confusing myself. You will say something so abstract that it could mean virtually anything in that context and then talk (type) to everyone like it is the most logical thing that anyone has ever said in the history of uncontrollable controlled time cheerios. It's baffling. Confused Fall
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#30
RE: Time
(April 10, 2011 at 9:34 pm)Emporion Wrote:
(April 10, 2011 at 6:17 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: None of the above....Time is an observation and is relative to that observers position in Space. Just what "Time" are you referring to?? Telstra time?? Microsoft time?? UTC time?? Linux time?? Atomic time??

Or the time it takes for you to love? The time it takes to do that unpleasant job?? define please.

Time in this case is defined as physical time as stated in earlier posts.

@everyone replying. I had not intended mathematics to be taken so literally. I wrote mathematics because formal logic(I guess I should have clarified) is a subset of mathematics.

And as I pointed out, physical time is relative. I think the poll needs to be re-worked.
'The difference between a Miracle and a Fact is exactly the difference between a mermaid and seal. It could not be expressed better.'
-- Samuel "Mark Twain" Clemens

"I think that in the discussion of natural problems we ought to begin not with the scriptures, but with experiments, demonstrations, and observations".

- Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)

"In short, Meyer has shown that his first disastrous book was not a fluke: he is capable of going into any field in which he has no training or research experience and botching it just as badly as he did molecular biology. As I've written before, if you are a complete amateur and don't understand a subject, don't demonstrate the Dunning-Kruger effect by writing a book about it and proving your ignorance to everyone else! "

- Dr. Donald Prothero
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