BBC BIBLE BASHING

[Napoléon]

What about all the sports that get shown? Most of my family hate watching football or golf, but they have to pay for that. Or the dramas, I don't watch eastenders but millions do...why should my license fee go towards that??!!

Of course it's an argument, how, when you have a publicly funded T.V station are you supposed to be producing T.V shows that everyone likes and agrees with the content of? It's impossible.

What would be your argument then for removing all religious T.V shows just because you didn't like them?

And Zen yea we do, it's about £140 per household and I live with 4 other people so it costs me around £28 a year ,and value wise the BBC is the best source of entertainment I think we have in this country, No adverts during shows, one of the best news sources in the world, some brilliant comedy and world class documentaries all available 24/7 on demand from the BBC website. I genuinely have no problem paying the license fee, and would hate to have a bbc funded by advertising and driven by profits like all the other channels.

hey dont get me wrong i think the bbc does show alot of great shows etc. but the thing for me is that religion is completely unproven bullshit. surely as an atheist you'll acknowledge this, so it sickens me when i'm putting on the TV and have a load of bible bashing on my screen.

religious shows are completely different to sports and eastenders etc because these latter shows are there for entertainment purposes. when a show is on for 'educational purposes' as a documentary of sorts i think it's absolutely ridiculous that i should have to pay for the bbc to be promoting this bullshit.

[Skipper]

Yes I agree, Religion is unproven bullshit. That still dosen't mean people are not interested in shows about it or entertained by them (However, I'd also say this show is of just as much interest to people interested in history, or even Atheists...I'll give it a watch). Football is bullshit too really, but it entertains me, but not everyone.

If we went around and started getting rid of stuff just because a group of people objected to it then we wouldn't really get much done. Ideologically of course, I believe the BBC should have an opt out system (as I feel this sort of enforced, mandatory tax is not really fair), if it was possible to make sure that person didn't have further access to any BBC output that is, but that would be difficult to impossible to enforce (but that's a different topic altogether).

[Eleazar]

you dont pay the tv licence just for the bbc. by law if you are recieving any TV signal you have to pay the licence fees. so even if i don't agree with what the bbc is showing i am still paying for it. THAT IS WRONG!

I know and agree with you that it's not right that the BBC gets special privileges. That said, the BBC could not continue in its existing form (which not only includes TV but Radio as well) without public funding. Personally, I don't pay the license fee (I don't have a TV) but benefit massively from some top quality programmes available on iPlayer and the Radio for free. Those with TVs simply have to decide whether it's worth paying the license fee given the pay-off and/or petition the government to do something about it (which I know has been done, but with no effect so far).

[Napoléon]

Yes I agree, Religion is unproven bullshit. That still dosen't mean people are not interested in shows about it or entertained by them (However, I'd also say this show is of just as much interest to people interested in history, or even Atheists...I'll give it a watch). Football is bullshit too really, but it entertains me, but not everyone.

If we went around and started getting rid of stuff just because a group of people objected to it then we wouldn't really get much done. Ideologically of course, I believe the BBC should have an opt out system (as I feel this sort of enforced, mandatory tax is not really fair), if it was possible to make sure that person didn't have further access to any BBC output that is, but that would be difficult to impossible to enforce (but that's a different topic altogether).

hey i'm not sitting here telling everyone to give up their religions just to suit me (although it would be a good fucking idea). i can live perfectly fine with people believing in fairy tales if they want to. i just dont want it displayed on my tv which i am paying for. that's not too much to ask is it?

the difference between religion and football is that people aren't going to be lectured about some mystical giant goal net in the sky who created the earth from a giant football pitch by watching football. football exists only to entertain. a religious program filled with bullshit doesnt.

[Skipper]

A programme based on evolution would be called unproven bullshit by religious fundamentalists. I just can't equate living in a society that values freedom of speech when a tax on everyone is used to fund only one side on an argument.

The vast majority of the BBC's documentaries are based on facts, science and education anyway, as a reflection of how society in general feels, It dosen't mean the religious minority shouldn't get at least a few shows...they pay too.

(Sorry if that isn't too clear. Pretty fucking baked)

[Napoléon]

A programme based on evolution would be called unproven bullshit by religious fundamentalists. I just can't equate living in a society that values freedom of speech when a tax on everyone is used to fund only one side on an argument.

The vast majority of the BBC's documentaries are based on facts, science and education anyway, as a reflection of how society in general feels, It dosen't mean the religious minority shouldn't get at least a few shows...they pay too.

(Sorry if that isn't too clear. Pretty fucking baked)

i understand where you're coming from but i just dont see how the argument holds any weight.

evolution has a shit load of evidence, just look at the fossil records. so you can't argue that evolution is unproven bullshit.

religion, is based on bullshit. therefore i can call it unproven bullshit.


don't think i've ever said bullshit so much

[Jaysyn]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b010pv3y

here's a program they're showing right now. i know it's 'holy week' or whatever bullshit but why should i be paying my subscription fees for this crap to be played?

the religious types moan that they aren't given any respect, but where the fuck is my respect! i'm not paying fucking taxes for the BBC to show these shitty programs!

i'm sick of religion being crammed down our throats and i wonder if any of you guys are too. religion for me should not have to be payed for BY ME when i dont believe a fucking word of it.

I really don't see why not, culture is culture. As Eleazar said, they just had another show on that was basically the opposite of this, so as long as they balance out the viewpoints what's the big deal. Just one of the pitfalls of publicly funded television. If you don't like it, don't have to watch it.

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religion, is based on bullshit. therefore i can call it unproven bullshit.

Dr. Who is based on bullshit too, but I don't think they should be taking it off air.

[Zen Badger]

Here in Oz we have the ABC (which would be equiv. to the BBC) and SBS which carries a lot of foreign films( not british or american)

Both are funded by the government and are therefore free( tho SBS has to sell some advertising)

And the quality of broadcasting is far superior to the commercial channels.

[Skipper]

Here in Oz we have the ABC (which would be equiv. to the BBC) and SBS which carries a lot of foreign films( not british or american)

Both are funded by the government and are therefore free( tho SBS has to sell some advertising)

And the quality of broadcasting is far superior to the commercial channels.

Well then the funding for them will be sourced from some sort of tax on the general population. We just have an upfront and (unfortunately) mandatory fee for anyone with a t.v...both our commercial free channels are funded by the population, just in different ways, and both produce far better telly than the same countries commercial alternatives.

[Justtristo]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b010pv3y

here's a program they're showing right now. i know it's 'holy week' or whatever bullshit but why should i be paying my subscription fees for this crap to be played?

the religious types moan that they aren't given any respect, but where the fuck is my respect! i'm not paying fucking taxes for the BBC to show these shitty programs!

i'm sick of religion being crammed down our throats and i wonder if any of you guys are too. religion for me should not have to be payed for BY ME when i dont believe a fucking word of it.

I am a bit concerned about the BBC airing pious apologetics dressed up as a serious historical documentary. Because is it far from certain Jesus of Nazareth actually existed, given the little evidence we have apart from the New Testament. A lot of other figures in ancient history we have a lot more evidence for, than we have for Jesus of Nazareth.

Mind you this is not the first time they did this, Jeremy Bowen hosted a series on Jesus for the BBC a few years and I cringed even then.