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There has to be a God/Creator
RE: There has to be a God/Creator
(June 9, 2011 at 3:13 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Now lets give him the benefit of the doubt. He might just be a deluded, insane moron. Not a troll.

Those are the only two choices however.

Schmuck or liar, you decide.

He had the benefit of the doubt. Now he's lost mine.

I think he is also a deluded and insane moron... but he is a troll.
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RE: There has to be a God/Creator
(June 8, 2011 at 12:39 pm)Andrastos Wrote: I am of no religion, but the thought of there being a God is as obvious as my own existence!
Please don't make the mistake of classifying me as you would the typical religious believer!
God isn't obvious, otherwise you wouldn't have started up this "discussion".

Typical religious believer. >.>
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RE: There has to be a God/Creator
(June 9, 2011 at 5:36 pm)Welsh cake Wrote:
(June 8, 2011 at 12:39 pm)Andrastos Wrote: I am of no religion, but the thought of there being a God is as obvious as my own existence!
Please don't make the mistake of classifying me as you would the typical religious believer!
God isn't obvious, otherwise you wouldn't have started up this "discussion".

Typical religious believer. >.>

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What do you mean God isn't obvious? YES HE IS!!! It says so in the BIBLE! Therefore it's TRUE! Besides, where do you think the color PURPLE came from???
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It's funny that something so obvious must be taught to children at a young age. A tree, now that's obvious! Just go ahead and try bashing your head against it without some kind of observable consequence. I've done the "spiritual" equivalent with NO observable consequence. Oh, but wait...the consequence is awaiting me in my grave! Yes, of course!
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RE: There has to be a God/Creator
(June 8, 2011 at 12:39 pm)Andrastos Wrote: The presence of these mathematical series in creation, because of the order and design, can only suggest an intelligent Designer. A Creator does exist, and this Creator is intelligent, infinitely more intelligent than man, since man understands an infinitesimal portion of the universe this Creator has made.

Funny how math proves a god considering that people made math gradually over the course of history.
Much of it constructed by ancient peoples and civilizations that were most assuredly not christian, like the greeks, egyptions, islamic nations (ever wonder where algebra comes from?), and numerous others.

So anyway, that might be your conclusion based on *nothing* but that conclusion doesn't hold water in terms of being any kind of actual evidence.
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