Morality

[padraic]

Quote:I do not care what crimes a friend of mine committed or did not commit.

How wonderful Sae! You are the first person I've actually run across who meets Alexei Sale's definition of a good friend.

Quote:A friend will help you move. A good friend will help you move a body

If I had a friend like that,I'd probably be a widower rather than a divorcee.

PS with that lack of empathy,have you ever consider a career as a contract killer? (I"m the same and did consider it. Sadly, I have a vestigal Catholic conscience,so was forced to eschew a career as a hitman)

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@Peter44 can you say ' solipsism?'

[ElDinero]

Sae, for all your posturing about breaking your friends out of prison and not caring if they are guilty, it doesn't actually answer the question of whether you'd be so flippant about 20% of death penalty sentences being incorrect or not if it involved someone you cared about. The fact that you'd be right behind them even if they were guilty is actually irrelevant; in this situation, your best friend is innocent of a crime, has been convicted, and faces death. Would you still be saying 'oh well we've got lots of unemployment, this'll free up a space'?

[Violet Lilly Blossom]

(12th September 2011 00:36)padraic Wrote:  

Quote:I do not care what crimes a friend of mine committed or did not commit.

How wonderful Sae! You are the first person I've actually run across who meets Alexei Sale's definition of a good friend.

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Quote:A friend will help you move. A good friend will help you move a body

If I had a friend like that,I'd probably be a widower rather than a divorcee.

PS with that lack of empathy,have you ever consider a career as a contract killer? (I"m the same and did consider it. Sadly, I have a vestigal Catholic conscience,so was forced to eschew a career as a hitman)

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I have considered a career as a contract killer... I might even well still do it. I am lucky, however... in that I can easily do a great number of jobs. I certainly felt satisfied today when I learned the alphabet of American Sign Language in 5 minutes under guidance of a girl who's very hard of hearing.

Also highly enjoyed teaching a young man some basic Russian some few days ago. Truly... I enjoy learning language, and I enjoy teaching it... if I can land myself a good job in related fields: even with no money, I will feel rich

I found out to my happiness that Russian is taught at a college near here... I am taking it next semester. Might sit in on a few classes this semester if they let me (I would of course: ask). Class is taught by a woman who was born in Russia... but I do not know if she experienced much of soviet russia or not. I'm hoping so and to hear her stories... but if not: Russian is a fantastic language... certainly interesting enough to hold my attention ^_^

... apologies for rambling...

TL: DR

Yes, I could be a contract killer. However: it is not my preferred job.

[Rhythm]

It's an industry in decline, boomtimes were a couple years back, most contractors are drawing down employment.

[Violet Lilly Blossom]

(12th September 2011 02:27)ElDinero Wrote:  Sae, for all your posturing about breaking your friends out of prison and not caring if they are guilty, it doesn't actually answer the question of whether you'd be so flippant about 20% of death penalty sentences being incorrect or not if it involved someone you cared about. The fact that you'd be right behind them even if they were guilty is actually irrelevant; in this situation, your best friend is innocent of a crime, has been convicted, and faces death. Would you still be saying 'oh well we've got lots of unemployment, this'll free up a space'?

Answer: no. Why? Because I am his friend.

Any other poor bastard in the world? "Then I'll see you in Hell."

And honey... your suggestion that I've been faking my position is groundless, and the premise untrue. I do not care (read that over again, twice since it doesn't seem to have sunk in yet) if the death penalty has been thrust upon someone innocent or guilty... it only matters to me if the person matters to me... and if the person matters to me: then innocent or guilty is irrelevant. So stop obsessing over people who are innocent or guilty, and understand that I really don't give a shit about anything more than the person involved.

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(12th September 2011 02:47)Rhythm Wrote:  It's an industry in decline, boomtimes were a couple years back, most contractors are drawing down employment.

Any industry in decline can use something cutting edge being introduced into the market

[ElDinero]

I don't really see how you can take yourself seriously and say stuff like that. If everyone thought as inwardly as you, you wouldn't even be walking around. The fact that you're content to see innocent people killed just because you don't know them is perfectly reasonable grounds to deem you a sociopath. It's an idiotic and irresponsible position to take, excusing people from responsibility as long as they talk nicely to you, while feeling no empathy for someone being executed just because they haven't had the opportunity to kiss your arse. Very, very sad.

[Violet Lilly Blossom]

(12th September 2011 03:11)ElDinero Wrote:  I don't really see how you can take yourself seriously and say stuff like that.

I can take myself quite seriously while wearing a hat like this:

And I can also find humor in genocide.

Open up a little... to what life could be for you

Quote:If everyone thought as inwardly as you, you wouldn't even be walking around.

Incorrect... if everyone thought as inwardly as I do: everyone would mind their own business. There is nothing another person has that I want so much to steal. Unless it happens to be a magical pill to change my body precisely how I need it to be... then I would commit genocide of nearly the entire human race (I pause at the whole thing... that would be a little too lonely for me. I would like to have sex with my body properly, after all).

Quote:The fact that you're content to see innocent people killed just because you don't know them is perfectly reasonable grounds to deem you a sociopath.

And yet, I am among the most sociable people in the world, donating time, talent, money, and entertainment to people for no reason at all.

You're still obsessed with innocence. Remember that it is irrelevant to me. Whether guilty or innocent or orange skinned with black stripes: they are dead, and I am not emotionally attached to people I don't know.

Quote:It's an idiotic and irresponsible position to take, excusing people from responsibility as long as they talk nicely to you, while feeling no empathy for someone being executed just because they haven't had the opportunity to kiss your arse. Very, very sad.

Rather, it is a very rational position to take You really don't 'get it'... all this talk of 'responsibility' is completely meaningless. Did you know that it's the people who talk 'nicely' to me that I find 'overbearingly flattering', and who disgust every ounce of my 'soul'?

Kiss ups are kiss ups... I don't readily become friends with kiss ups. They'd have to be fucking interesting kiss ups indeed for any possibility of it... and then they'd have to almost never do it to me

I don't make friends the same way you do, hon. Of course I don't feel empathy for some random person being executed... or do you somehow feel some burdeningly powerful pain for every one of the people who die in africa and asia and europe every few seconds?

Because that seems like a dumb 'irresponsible' way to live to me. Me being proud. Me owning every single action I take, regardless of it being good or bad or pushing regret upon me. Me who does not attach any respect automatically to people beyond their existing. Just as you do with sand/rocks on a beach

[Rhythm]

(12th September 2011 03:34)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote:  Did you know that it's the people who talk 'nicely' to me that I find 'overbearingly flattering', and who disgust every ounce of my 'soul'?

Explains our little exchanges nicely. You know I hate your guts right?

[Violet Lilly Blossom]

(12th September 2011 04:09)Rhythm Wrote:  Explains our little exchanges nicely. You know I hate your guts right?

Why yes: yes I do.

I, on the other hand, would greatly enjoy cooking up your guts... and eating them

(I honestly have no idea what you're on about, panda babe)

[Rhythm]

Dinero, I for one don't believe a word of what Sae here says about herself or her opinions. In all likelihood you're being trolled.