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Evil Atheists
#21
RE: Evil Atheists
(September 10, 2011 at 9:52 am)frankiej Wrote:
(September 10, 2011 at 9:49 am)StatCrux Wrote: I keep getting similar responses, asserting that we don't need a "sky wizrd" but not offering any basis for a common morality..and still no response to the original question..

You obviously don't see what everyone is telling you. There is no way to say it in an "atheistic worldview"... It is wrong either way. Morality is the same for most people...

Nobody is "saying" anything, other that "it just is bad isn't it" thats not how reasoning works. As an atheist you surely have to explain where your morality comes from and more than that, why it should be accepted by anyone other than yourself, who may have a completely different view of morality. Atheists and modern society use morality derived from theistic worldviews and refuse to acknowledge where that morality originated.

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#22
RE: Evil Atheists
(September 10, 2011 at 9:58 am)StatCrux Wrote: Rather than offering any solutions atheism is a catalyst for more conflict and disagreement as evidenced by the agressive behavior seen in many of its adherants.

You are joking of course. The vast majority of disagreements and aggression comes from the religious attempting to impose their morality and ideology on others.

Just admit it, you consider yourself morally superior to us. I mean you're even adversarial in the title of your post, 'Evil Atheists'.

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#23
RE: Evil Atheists
(September 10, 2011 at 9:58 am)Rhythm Wrote: Look, Crux, you assume that our very humanity isn't the source of our morality, that without a god to hand us the rules we'd just shuffle about like animals raping and beating and killing each other indiscriminately. This is simply not the case. Our ever developing concepts of morality predate your fairy tale by an unbelievably wide margin. Societies cannot be built, or survive with a concept of morality that allows the unrestricted predation of it's members, by it's members. Any such society would not survive to pass it's concepts of morality on through the ages. Simply put, if you eat your children no one lives to tell the tale.

You don't seem to be getting the question? why can't anybody answer the question in the OP? It has noting to do with what I believe or the Bible or "sky wizards" its a simple question relating purely to an atheistic worldview, how does one atheist persuade another atheist that their view of morality is "wrong"?

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#24
RE: Evil Atheists
It sounds like your trying to take the moral high ground. You seem to think morality comes from religion, but it don't. You're no more moral than anyone for simply having an imaginary friend.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan

Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.

Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.

You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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#25
RE: Evil Atheists
You have been answered, yet you continue to troll. I like the cut of your bridge.
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#26
RE: Evil Atheists
(September 10, 2011 at 10:06 am)Darwinian Wrote: Just admit it, you consider yourself morally superior to us. I mean you're even adversarial in the title of your post, 'Evil Atheists'.

Not at all, it just that in my experience many atheists haven't given much thought to the concepts of good and evil and where their morality is logically derived from. Its usually a mixture of "we all just know don't we" and "its all explained by evolution" both of which don't cut it. "Evil Atheists" was just to point out the contradiction of using the term "Evil" when applied to atheism, there can be no good or evil in an atheistic wordview, they are specifically religious concepts.

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#27
RE: Evil Atheists
Yeah, we abolished slavery because it says so in religious texts, Ah, Ah, Ah...
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#28
RE: Evil Atheists
Oh, we get the question, you simply refuse to admit that it's been answered over and over again.
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#29
RE: Evil Atheists
(September 10, 2011 at 10:12 am)Epimethean Wrote: You have been answered, yet you continue to troll. I like the cut of your bridge.

Troll? I think I'm asking perfectly relevant and reasonable questions, which as yet have not been engaged. Simply saying "the guys just wrong ain't he" isn't answering the question.

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#30
RE: Evil Atheists
Actually, stat, you are incorrect. There is "good" in atheism. It is a value. "Evil" is the one religion dragged in.
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