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Immoral want
#11
RE: Immoral want
In fact, some religions would find it very moral to wish for the deaths or damnationes memoriae of those of other religions.
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#12
RE: Immoral want
(October 5, 2011 at 4:42 am)8BitAtheist Wrote: 1. Is it immoral to want someone to not exist?
2. Is it immoral to want someone to die?


I sure hope not ...... I wish that every time I'm on the road. There's a shit-ton of idiots driving around on Michigan roads!
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#13
RE: Immoral want
(October 15, 2011 at 10:51 pm)Cinjin Wrote:
(October 5, 2011 at 4:42 am)8BitAtheist Wrote: 1. Is it immoral to want someone to not exist?
2. Is it immoral to want someone to die?


I sure hope not ...... I wish that every time I'm on the road. There's a shit-ton of idiots driving around on Michigan roads!



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#14
RE: Immoral want
(October 15, 2011 at 5:01 pm)Loading Please Wait Wrote:
(October 5, 2011 at 4:55 am)frankiej Wrote: Interesting...

I am not sure about that one... But, because morality is subjective it may be difficult to come to a proper conclusion.

Indeed.

From my view, nope to all 3.
And besides, morality and immorality for that matter, is a very subjective issue.
I'm sure some religious people would consider those very immoral. It all depends on each individual's morals.

You may not be correct about the religious, christians on the other hand would find each one immoral. Christ has told us that your thoughts are sinful when they are thoughts that are against another person/s. The reason being that in your heart you are elevating yourself above others and as christians we are to consider ourselves less so that we can serve others with humility.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#15
RE: Immoral want
(October 16, 2011 at 2:13 am)Godschild Wrote: You may not be correct about the religious, christians on the other hand would find each one immoral.

Lol ... thank you Captain Obvious.

What a shock, people who find sleeping in on the sabbath a sin punishable by death also find THOUGHTS to be immoral .... lol ... shocking.
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#16
RE: Immoral want
(October 16, 2011 at 2:16 am)Cinjin Wrote:
(October 16, 2011 at 2:13 am)Godschild Wrote: You may not be correct about the religious, christians on the other hand would find each one immoral.

Lol ... thank you Captain Obvious.

What a shock, people who find sleeping in on the sabbath a sin punishable by death also find THOUGHTS to be immoral .... lol ... shocking.

Where did you get such an idea, that's the most ignorant thing I've heard in a while.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#17
RE: Immoral want
You clearly don't read your own posts.
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#18
RE: Immoral want
(October 5, 2011 at 4:42 am)8BitAtheist Wrote: 1. Is it immoral to want someone to not exist?
2. Is it immoral to want someone to die?
3. Is it immoral to want someone to fall into an abyss of obscurity?

1. I'm not exactly sure, if you want someone to not exist it creates a theoretical hypothetical reality where they were never born and thus they can't die and you cannot wish for them to, and you'd also not be able to not exist either. So, maybe?

2. I think it may be immoral to wish death upon someone.

3. No, I don't think that that's immoral. For example if WPC were to fall off the face of the earth (figuratively [okay, maybe literally too]), I wouldn't mind one bit.
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I think it might be immoral to do something about it, if that thing wasn't completely justified. How do we work out if it's justified: by thinking about it.

If you didn't think about it, your anger would go unresolved and would probably out in a much more dangerous way, either for you or for the subject of your vent.
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#19
RE: Immoral want
Abraham Lincoln used to write letters to people he disliked or toward whom he felt animosity. He would then put them away in his desk, having gotten the thoughts out.
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#20
RE: Immoral want
(October 16, 2011 at 2:13 am)Godschild Wrote: Christ has told us that your thoughts are sinful when they are thoughts that are against another person/s.

Thought crime eh! what an evil fucker that christ was, making even a passing thought something that needed atonement for.

Its an impossible standard to achieve and sets us all up for a fall, but I guess that was the churches plan to gain more control.

This from a bullying help website.

http://www.bullyonline.org/stress/guilt.htm

Quote:Guilt is the method by which religious organisations, especially the Roman Catholic Church, control their flock. Encourage a person to feel guilty and you can manipulate them into thinking, believing or doing anything. However, whenever you use guilt to control someone, everybody will feel bad about it, especially the person using guilt. Guilt is the Great Destroyer; in short, guilt sucks.




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