Homophobes. Your nipples prove that you could have been Gay.

[Rhythm]

I'm sorry, the creator of human beings didn't create "our instinctual nature"? Credit for the pleasant shit, check. The nasty shit? Nah, not our boy!

Hell Tack, all I did was hand that nutball a gun and put a victim in front of him...I'm not responsible for what happened next. Que the heavenly choir.

Death is the wage of sin? More like death is the price you pay for living, if we're going to assume the language of wage or price. Pretty sure that you're going to die regardless of whether or not you "sin". You're offering up your absurd mythology as proof or justification for your absurd mythology. There's a name for that. You have "shown" no such thing, the only thing you've shown is that you are willing to take fairy tales literally (or not, depending upon how convenient it is for you at any point in any argument).

I agree, absurd analogy. No clear thinking and benevolent being would do such a thing. Except your god, unless he doesn't exist, and this is a manufactured issue in it's entirety. Without your god and his claimed attributes there is no such thing as the "problem of evil" or the "nature of sin", what does that say about your god and his attributes? Evil, as we define it, can be demonstrated to exist, your god? Not so much. If there's a problem here, should we be siding with what can be shown to exist, or what cannot? What we know, or how we feel or believe? The litany of platitudes that fall out of your head is dizzying.

I'm a big fan of those moments when logic leads us to a point where the issues with our thought process are laid out so explicitly and succinctly with regards to our own invented absurdities. You try to sidestep them because you realize that your dogma is on shaky ground when we reach that point. What better way to quickly deal with a problem than to redefine it and then pretend that it doesn't exist based on your shoddy new definitions, rgr? Maybe it will go away if you don't think about it? Speaking of worshipful robots, isn't this exactly what your god created us to be and do, love and worship him (nevermind all of his shortcomings because it's blasphemous to consider them)? If so, he wen't about it in entirely the wrong way, because here I sit. That's another thorn in the side for his claimed attributes. An omniscient god would have seen me (or anyone like me) coming. If death and punishment are how he deals with this, then benevolence becomes an issue again. Seriously, is your god an absolute moron or a complete genius? You seem to have trouble deciding yourself, based upon the explanations I've seen thusfar.

[Chuck]

(23rd November 2011 01:34)Old Seer Wrote:  It could be that at one time our ancestors (or an ancestor) were asexual and divided into separate sexes.

It was, and that happened at least 1 billion years before christian god created the universe.

[Greatest I am]

(2nd December 2011 12:11)tackattack Wrote:  or just turn us all into worshiping robots. He could have done anything he wanted. I showed that the wages of sin is death. Dying selflessly with sacrfice is our example. IF you want to address the rest of my questions feel free, I already have addressed yours. I don't have time to go though tons of video that I'm already subscribed to (ZOMGitsChris I am also subscribed to)and have seen. Feel free to address them personally with your own thoughts, unless you'd like the same cut and paste in return.
V/R
Dave

They say in a short time what you would take a longer time for you to read.

Do as you like.

Regards
DL

[tackattack]

(2nd December 2011 16:45)Rhythm Wrote:  

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I'm sorry, the creator of human beings didn't create "our instinctual nature"? Credit for the pleasant shit, check. The nasty shit? Nah, not our boy!

Hell Tack, all I did was hand that nutball a gun and put a victim in front of him...I'm not responsible for what happened next. Que the heavenly choir.

Death is the wage of sin? More like death is the price you pay for living, if we're going to assume the language of wage or price. Pretty sure that you're going to die regardless of whether or not you "sin". You're offering up your absurd mythology as proof or justification for your absurd mythology. There's a name for that. You have "shown" no such thing, the only thing you've shown is that you are willing to take fairy tales literally (or not, depending upon how convenient it is for you at any point in any argument).

I agree, absurd analogy. No clear thinking and benevolent being would do such a thing. Except your god, unless he doesn't exist, and this is a manufactured issue in it's entirety. Without your god and his claimed attributes there is no such thing as the "problem of evil" or the "nature of sin", what does that say about your god and his attributes? Evil, as we define it, can be demonstrated to exist, your god? Not so much. If there's a problem here, should we be siding with what can be shown to exist, or what cannot? What we know, or how we feel or believe? The litany of platitudes that fall out of your head is dizzying.

I'm a big fan of those moments when logic leads us to a point where the issues with our thought process are laid out so explicitly and succinctly with regards to our own invented absurdities. You try to sidestep them because you realize that your dogma is on shaky ground when we reach that point. What better way to quickly deal with a problem than to redefine it and then pretend that it doesn't exist based on your shoddy new definitions, rgr? Maybe it will go away if you don't think about it? Speaking of worshipful robots, isn't this exactly what your god created us to be and do, love and worship him (nevermind all of his shortcomings because it's blasphemous to consider them)? If so, he wen't about it in entirely the wrong way, because here I sit. That's another thorn in the side for his claimed attributes. An omniscient god would have seen me (or anyone like me) coming. If death and punishment are how he deals with this, then benevolence becomes an issue again. Seriously, is your god an absolute moron or a complete genius? You seem to have trouble deciding yourself, based upon the explanations I've seen thusfar.

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I hold no cognitive dissonance. I have not to my knowledge invented my own absudities, that didn't have a firm place in theological circles. I have never to my knowledge sidestepped any question or issue since coming to this site. Nor, do I have any trouble deciding what side of the fence I'm on. If you feel otherwise, show evidence or see yourself out of the conversation. I could go through a litany of your flaws, but I'm aware of mine and you haven't listed one in that rant. Put up or shut up.