Facebook Duel; Part 3
November 23, 2011 at 2:42 am
(This post was last modified: November 23, 2011 at 2:45 am by LunchBox.)
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FUNDIE #1: Jake Plummer thinks Tim Tebow should quit talking about Jesus so much. Tebow's response:
"Any time I get an opportunity to tell Jesus Christ that I love him or I'm given an opportunity to shout him out on national TV, I'm gonna take that opportunity...and that's how it works because Christ comes first in my life."
Oh, and Jake Plummer, thanks for subscribing to noneofmyfreakingbusiness.com...
ME: I wonder how the lunch croud in the teacher's lounge would feel if one of the teachers was a Muslim cleric, and droned on and on about his beliefs in front of others confined within their workspace...
FUNDIE #2: It is a free country...freedom of speech. Would people get nervous...of course, radical Muslim theology is to kill those that don't agree...you are really comparing apples and oranges...that which brings life...and that which brings death.
ME: This is in principle a free country...but you and I both know there are loopholes. The school district located in the free country in which this Muslim teacher works would most likely find a way to dismiss, or non-renew him. How about a Buddhist? They're benign...but the outcome would be the same...and I think you know that. Perhaps an Orthodox Jew working in a shop, explains why God is so great...but Jesus wasn't the Messiah. How far would that fly?
But...this is a "free country", and as long as one abides by the (unwritten) rules of a theistic majority, they are safe.
How 'bout them apples?
FUNDIE #1: Yeah, there's no point in over-complicating this. It's okay for Tim Tebow to talk about Jesus. Period. As soon as this becomes an actual "problem," then we have a much bigger problem...
FUNDIE #2: He has freedom of speech...and its awesome he is willing to share the truth of Jesus Christ so boldly. Pray for him to have favor with his players and lead them to faith in Jesus Christ.
ME: Agreed...it is ok for Tebow to talk (promotionally) about Jesus. But the news stories are about a divide...that it makes some people uncomfortable to the degree with which Tebow promotes his beliefs. The first ammendment doesn't say we don't have the right NOT to be ofended, or put off...so again, he is justified. But since the rationale behind the stories was the divide...I thought it might be interesting to explore it. It isn't complicated at all...as long as one falls within the social majority. HE HAS freedom of speech...as does any other citizen of the US. He also has immunity, since most people agree with him.
FUNDIE #2: Luke 12:51 -- "Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division."
ME: FUNDIE #2...earlier you talked about Muslims "kill[ing] those that don't agree...", seemingly in an effort to distance Christianity from Islam in regards to their interpretation of religious text[s]. A bit later, you then quoted Luke 12:51. I'm no a Biblical scholar...but a few lines previous to that which you posted (Luke 12:46/47), talks about beating, and bisecting the unfaithful. Seems to me that many religious texts can be interpreted in such a way to inspire violent acts. To me, it seems to be a bit less of apples to oranges, and a bit more Granny's , to Fuji's.
*Enjoy!
FUNDIE #1: Jake Plummer thinks Tim Tebow should quit talking about Jesus so much. Tebow's response:
"Any time I get an opportunity to tell Jesus Christ that I love him or I'm given an opportunity to shout him out on national TV, I'm gonna take that opportunity...and that's how it works because Christ comes first in my life."
Oh, and Jake Plummer, thanks for subscribing to noneofmyfreakingbusiness.com...
ME: I wonder how the lunch croud in the teacher's lounge would feel if one of the teachers was a Muslim cleric, and droned on and on about his beliefs in front of others confined within their workspace...
FUNDIE #2: It is a free country...freedom of speech. Would people get nervous...of course, radical Muslim theology is to kill those that don't agree...you are really comparing apples and oranges...that which brings life...and that which brings death.
ME: This is in principle a free country...but you and I both know there are loopholes. The school district located in the free country in which this Muslim teacher works would most likely find a way to dismiss, or non-renew him. How about a Buddhist? They're benign...but the outcome would be the same...and I think you know that. Perhaps an Orthodox Jew working in a shop, explains why God is so great...but Jesus wasn't the Messiah. How far would that fly?
But...this is a "free country", and as long as one abides by the (unwritten) rules of a theistic majority, they are safe.
How 'bout them apples?
FUNDIE #1: Yeah, there's no point in over-complicating this. It's okay for Tim Tebow to talk about Jesus. Period. As soon as this becomes an actual "problem," then we have a much bigger problem...
FUNDIE #2: He has freedom of speech...and its awesome he is willing to share the truth of Jesus Christ so boldly. Pray for him to have favor with his players and lead them to faith in Jesus Christ.
ME: Agreed...it is ok for Tebow to talk (promotionally) about Jesus. But the news stories are about a divide...that it makes some people uncomfortable to the degree with which Tebow promotes his beliefs. The first ammendment doesn't say we don't have the right NOT to be ofended, or put off...so again, he is justified. But since the rationale behind the stories was the divide...I thought it might be interesting to explore it. It isn't complicated at all...as long as one falls within the social majority. HE HAS freedom of speech...as does any other citizen of the US. He also has immunity, since most people agree with him.
FUNDIE #2: Luke 12:51 -- "Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division."
ME: FUNDIE #2...earlier you talked about Muslims "kill[ing] those that don't agree...", seemingly in an effort to distance Christianity from Islam in regards to their interpretation of religious text[s]. A bit later, you then quoted Luke 12:51. I'm no a Biblical scholar...but a few lines previous to that which you posted (Luke 12:46/47), talks about beating, and bisecting the unfaithful. Seems to me that many religious texts can be interpreted in such a way to inspire violent acts. To me, it seems to be a bit less of apples to oranges, and a bit more Granny's , to Fuji's.
*Enjoy!
Let your anger be as a monkey in a piñata; hiding with the candy, hoping the children do not break through with a stick.
