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RE: Parents wont let my celebrate Christmas
December 11, 2011 at 6:46 pm
(December 11, 2011 at 6:42 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: This kid has the same problem as you.
That's why I'm so fucking thankful that my family are all atheists. Plus secular society.
Religious wackos. They can't seem to keep their shit to themselves.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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RE: Parents wont let my celebrate Christmas
December 11, 2011 at 6:50 pm
(December 11, 2011 at 6:05 pm)ReB Wrote: . What do I do instead of tearing out their hearts?
Those seem to be childish, spiteful hearts anyway. Tearing them out might do them good.
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RE: Parents wont let my celebrate Christmas
December 11, 2011 at 6:50 pm
She wanted to hit him so bad... Spin the chair around, get in his face and threaten him...that isnt a good way to argue your point.
I bet she thinks "atheist" means "satanist" or "communist" or whatever bullcrap that is spoonfed to her.
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RE: Parents wont let my celebrate Christmas
December 11, 2011 at 6:56 pm
(December 11, 2011 at 6:36 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Instead of buying presents for them, buy them for yourself. You'll get exactly what you want come Christmas then. Cards ditto. I guess dinner will be minimal. Wow... sounds like a very religious Xmas! 
I'm 15.. I don't have money... 
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RE: Parents wont let my celebrate Christmas
December 11, 2011 at 9:08 pm
Wrap yourself in a sheet and celebrate the Saturnalia . It's basically the same thing but without the jesus bullshit. Sprinkle your speech with a little pig-latin.
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RE: Parents wont let my celebrate Christmas
December 11, 2011 at 9:41 pm
Honestly, I would pretend like I suddenly found Jesus in my heart. I would try to hold a straight face and tell them Jesus spoke to me, and then I would make it a point to seem to be the most fundamentally religious person in the world. It's easy, just say repulsive things... quote the bible, and pretend to pray. Then when you're alone in your room, laugh your ass off at those gullible little twits, and collect your Christmas loot.
If you need some pointers on how to be convincing, go here:
http://www.landoverbaptist.net
That forum is full of atheists, pretending to be obnoxious (pious) religious fucks. Just take some queues from them, and make a private game out of it. I know it feels better to tell them how fucked up and stupid their beliefs are, but Christmas gifts are fucking important. Just fuck with their heads, that can be fun too.
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RE: Parents wont let my celebrate Christmas
December 11, 2011 at 9:46 pm
celebrate anyway dunderhead.
Sorry. I just don't see how it's possible for you not to see that no one can take anything away from you unless you give it to them.
So you don't get presents from them ... So what? Celebrate the holidays your way. Get real man! Sheezus!
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RE: Parents wont let my celebrate Christmas
December 12, 2011 at 1:24 am
Threats rarely have a positive effect. The child will either conform to the parents wishes out of fear that his life will be made miserable (and resent his parents for not accepting his choices) or rebel and end up getting into serious trouble.
Although, I could very well do away with celebrating Christmas, I do it for my children. They understand my views and instead of "forcing" them to do without Christmas, I let them experience what other children get to - no matter what they believe or not believe in.
(December 11, 2011 at 6:42 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: This kid has the same problem as you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZXzkRb6m88
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RE: Parents wont let my celebrate Christmas
December 12, 2011 at 1:34 am
Just tell them that even though you don't believe in God, that you still enjoy the spirit of the holidays, and that you still want to celebrate. Remind them that Christmas is more about family, and generosity, etc. more than believing in God. Maybe if there are no young children in the room you could even say "well you don't believe in Santa, you still celebrate Christmas" in addition to that to emphasize the fact that Christmas is more about kindness than religion and scripture. Remind them that 95% of US citizens celebrate Christmas despite the fact that only about 70% are actually Christian. After they calm down, just reason with them in this way. If they continue with their current attitude, then you can start tearing their hearts out, because the least they can do is meet you half-way.
"Sisters, you know only the north; I have traveled in the south lands. There are churches there, believe me, that cut their children too, as the people of Bolvangar did--not in the same way, but just as horribly. They cut their sexual organs, yes, both boys and girls; they cut them with knives so that they shan't feel. That is what the Church does, and every church is the same: control, destroy, obliterate every good feeling. So if a war comes, and the Church is on one side of it, we must be on the other, no matter what strange allies we find ourselves bound to."
-Ruta Skadi, The Subtle Knife
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RE: Parents wont let my celebrate Christmas
December 12, 2011 at 1:41 am
The more you fuel the fire with people the more they will try to put it out. My suggestion to you would be to not get into discussions about this subject with your parents anymore. Ask them to respect your choices if they ask you and leave it at that. Yes, they will tell you that you will need to live with the consequences, which will mean no Christmas presents (for a while). In time, even their rage, anger, and attempts to bring you back to the other side will go away and they will remember that you are still their kid whom they love. As an adult, trust me, Christmas presents do not matter anymore - as you will be the one paying for presents and rarely receiving - its so overrated.
(December 11, 2011 at 6:05 pm)ReB Wrote: I told my parents I'm an Atheist, so they won't let me celebrate Christmas. I made a good point that Christmas wasn't even about Christ anymore. Hell, the past year before I was an Atheist, my parents never even said the name Jesus. Or even prayed at the table before now. All the sudden out of the blue they want to make it religious now. What do I do instead of tearing out their hearts?
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