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Thread: Atheism and morality
Post: RE: Atheism and morality
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(July 10, 2013 at 12:39 am)simplexity Wrote: It could not be:
1)A gods commands/instructions because nothing is necessarily suffering and therefore these gods commands are not necessarily mora... |
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July 10, 2013 at 3:23 am |
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Thread: Atheism and morality
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2 and 3 are only true for most of us who are aware. Yes. But if you like to suffer, than you are not really suffering. Which brings up some other additions. I reasoned through that maybe a little too ... |
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July 10, 2013 at 2:33 am |
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Thread: Atheism and morality
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(July 9, 2013 at 11:28 pm)Inigo Wrote: You didn't read what I said, did you? I said that you tried to eat your cake and have it. You quoted numbers and then you said 'of course, the numbers don't ... |
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July 10, 2013 at 12:39 am |
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Thread: us flag symbolism
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@Dragonetti
That all makes sense. I think I've heard the part about it representing the hats worn in the revolutionary war before, maybe in elementary school or something. I originally got this as a ... |
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July 7, 2013 at 11:48 pm |
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Thread: us flag symbolism
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I'm not sure whether or not to care about this. Apparently the US military flag folding ceremony has an 'unofficial' symbolic story that is read throughout, which is very religious. Wondering if anyon... |
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July 7, 2013 at 10:47 pm |
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Thread: Atheism and morality
Post: RE: Atheism and morality
Inigo, all you are doing is making up a definition of morality, even though that is not how most people use the word, and then based on YOUR definition, say that only an agent can provide these instru... |
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July 7, 2013 at 7:02 pm |
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Thread: Ask the experts
Post: RE: Ask the experts
So if you are traveling at light-speed, that means an infinite amount of time will pass at a point in rest, ...so on earth an infinite amount of time would pass. Meaning everything would also cease t... |
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July 7, 2013 at 2:02 am |
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Thread: Atheism and morality
Post: RE: Atheism and morality
(July 6, 2013 at 8:00 pm)Inigo Wrote: I pointed out that when we do wrong it seems clear to most of us that we now 'deserve' harm.When we do wrong and/or think of a wrong outcome it is not clear tha... |
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July 6, 2013 at 8:16 pm |
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Thread: Atheism and morality
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(July 6, 2013 at 5:12 pm)Inigo Wrote: He's about to die, thicky! Can't you read? He's about to die and the one thing he really wants to do before he dies is disembowel a prostitute. Does he have ... |
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July 6, 2013 at 6:03 pm |
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Thread: Atheism and morality
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Oh, just shut up. I'll give Jack plenty of reason not too by locking him up. He doesn't have a reason otherwise, and yes, that's just how it is. |
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July 6, 2013 at 5:10 pm |
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Thread: Atheism and morality
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(July 6, 2013 at 4:44 pm)Inigo Wrote: If you think he has reason not to disembowel a prostitute but do not believe there is any god or afterlife kindly explain.As I have already stated time and time... |
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July 6, 2013 at 5:00 pm |
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Thread: Atheism and morality
Post: RE: Atheism and morality
(July 6, 2013 at 4:11 pm)Inigo Wrote: So, if an act is morally right you don't necessarily have reason to do it? It can be irrational to do what is moral, can it?And you don't always have reason to... |
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July 6, 2013 at 4:16 pm |
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Thread: Atheism and morality
Post: RE: Atheism and morality
(July 6, 2013 at 3:52 pm)Inigo Wrote: No, because instincts either aren't instructions, or they are only instructional due to being desires, which are things that can only exist in a mind.
When so... |
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July 6, 2013 at 4:08 pm |
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Thread: Atheism and morality
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(July 6, 2013 at 3:43 pm)Inigo Wrote: I assume you cannot find a flaw in my reasoning or assumptions and so this is what you're driven to.Assumptions are always flawed. That's why they're called ass... |
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July 6, 2013 at 3:50 pm |
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Thread: Atheism and morality
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(July 6, 2013 at 2:48 pm)Inigo Wrote: (July 6, 2013 at 2:10 pm)paulpablo Wrote: But then why does there have to be an afterlife because of morals? Why could the person issuing the demands not be ... |
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July 6, 2013 at 3:19 pm |
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Thread: Atheism and morality
Post: RE: Atheism and morality
Instructions don't require an instructor. They can be contained in a code that is read through already existing patterns. We call these the laws of physics. The code itself is written through already ... |
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July 6, 2013 at 2:10 pm |
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Thread: hello
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Yay! This is the place for you. Heathens unite! Oh, what were we uniting for again? Hmm, now that you ask, I'm wondering the same thing. Something about 'no more nonsense' or something.
Anyways, welc... |
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July 6, 2013 at 1:44 am |
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Thread: Atheism and morality
Post: RE: Atheism and morality
(July 6, 2013 at 12:48 am)genkaus Wrote: (July 5, 2013 at 11:57 pm)simplexity Wrote: I have already told you what morality is in itself.
It is the set of of thought patterns generated from the m... |
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July 6, 2013 at 1:08 am |
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Thread: Proving a negative
Post: RE: Proving a negative
If I were asked I would say I can't prove there isn't one, but also that it is pointless to assume there is a god, when there is no evidence for one. All it takes to be an atheist is not to assume the... |
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July 6, 2013 at 12:12 am |
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Thread: Atheism and morality
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(July 5, 2013 at 11:09 pm)Inigo Wrote: Basically, it involves confusing what morality tells us to do and be (normative ethics) with what morality is, in itself. It is a set of ideas, stemming from t... |
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July 5, 2013 at 11:57 pm |