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    Thread: Good Introduction to Moral Philosophy
Post: RE: Good Introduction to Moral Philosophy

(July 16, 2013 at 9:07 pm)MindForgedManacle Wrote: I've been into philosophy since this January, but my knowledge of moral philosophy is still much lower than I'd like. Do any of you know of a good ...
Inigo Philosophy 4 1193 July 17, 2013 at 6:38 pm
    Thread: Atheism and morality
Post: RE: Atheism and morality

(July 10, 2013 at 3:31 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: (July 10, 2013 at 3:24 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: How's about you compose a belief statement for your profile so that we can appreciate your position fully? T...
Inigo Philosophy 508 149762 July 10, 2013 at 5:07 pm
    Thread: Atheism and morality
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(July 10, 2013 at 1:09 pm)genkaus Wrote: (July 10, 2013 at 1:05 pm)Inigo Wrote: I didn't define it as 'presupposing god'. I defined it as 'instructions and favourings that have inescapable ration...
Inigo Philosophy 508 149762 July 10, 2013 at 1:19 pm
    Thread: Atheism and morality
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(July 10, 2013 at 12:14 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: (July 10, 2013 at 11:23 am)Inigo Wrote: Labels don't matter. Label any position anything you want. All that matters is what arguments can be mustered for i...
Inigo Philosophy 508 149762 July 10, 2013 at 1:12 pm
    Thread: Atheism and morality
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(July 10, 2013 at 12:15 pm)pocaracas Wrote: (July 10, 2013 at 11:59 am)Inigo Wrote: If I say that by 'morality' I am referring to instructions and favourings that have inescapable rational authori...
Inigo Philosophy 508 149762 July 10, 2013 at 1:05 pm
    Thread: Atheism and morality
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(July 10, 2013 at 11:54 am)genkaus Wrote: (July 10, 2013 at 11:23 am)Inigo Wrote: Labels don't matter. Label any position anything you want. All that matters is what arguments can be mustered for...
Inigo Philosophy 508 149762 July 10, 2013 at 11:59 am
    Thread: Atheism and morality
Post: RE: Atheism and morality

(July 10, 2013 at 11:39 am)Simon Moon Wrote: (July 9, 2013 at 8:22 pm)Inigo Wrote: I am arguing first, that morality requires a god. I would THEN argue that this argument is a good one: 1. Mor...
Inigo Philosophy 508 149762 July 10, 2013 at 11:53 am
    Thread: Atheism and morality
Post: RE: Atheism and morality

Labels don't matter. Label any position anything you want. All that matters is what arguments can be mustered for it. You don't solve complicated philosophical matters by getting a dictionary! No...
Inigo Philosophy 508 149762 July 10, 2013 at 11:23 am
    Thread: Atheism and morality
Post: RE: Atheism and morality

You didn't read what I said, did you? I said that you tried to eat your cake and have it. You quoted numbers and then you said 'of course, the numbers don't count'. THat's like a newspaper printing...
Inigo Philosophy 508 149762 July 9, 2013 at 11:28 pm
    Thread: Atheism and morality
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(July 9, 2013 at 9:32 pm)MindForgedManacle Wrote: Whether or not moral theories of philosophers are 'bonkers', again, says nothing about whether or not they work. Hume's work on causality seems bonk...
Inigo Philosophy 508 149762 July 9, 2013 at 11:01 pm
    Thread: Atheism and morality
Post: RE: Atheism and morality

[quote] Therein lies [part of] the problem, because no one has come close (in this thread anyway) to actually establishing that a sound moral framework requires a god, and a god of a certain sort no l...
Inigo Philosophy 508 149762 July 9, 2013 at 10:19 pm
    Thread: Atheism and morality
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(July 9, 2013 at 7:26 pm)MindForgedManacle Wrote: (July 9, 2013 at 7:21 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: I've never seen a claim that God exists. Care to point me to one? (Mine and other theists claim of belief i...
Inigo Philosophy 508 149762 July 9, 2013 at 8:41 pm
    Thread: Atheism and morality
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(July 9, 2013 at 10:33 am)paulpablo Wrote: (July 9, 2013 at 10:22 am)Inigo Wrote: What is someone talking about when they talk about 'personal morals'? Are these a person's beliefs about which ac...
Inigo Philosophy 508 149762 July 9, 2013 at 8:22 pm
    Thread: Atheism and morality
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(July 9, 2013 at 2:53 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: (July 8, 2013 at 6:24 pm)Inigo Wrote: I am not a theist. I use the term 'theist' to refer to someone who believes in the existence of a creator god who is omn...
Inigo Philosophy 508 149762 July 9, 2013 at 7:59 pm
    Thread: Atheism and morality
Post: RE: Atheism and morality

(July 9, 2013 at 10:42 am)genkaus Wrote: That would be wrong as well. The divine command theory is incompatible with moral subjectivism, cultural relativism, ethical egoism, virtue ethics, utilitari...
Inigo Philosophy 508 149762 July 9, 2013 at 10:57 am
    Thread: Atheism and morality
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(July 9, 2013 at 10:13 am)paulpablo Wrote: But just to clarify, when you say morality you aren't talking about morality in the way someone might use the word in saying personal morals, or what someo...
Inigo Philosophy 508 149762 July 9, 2013 at 10:22 am
    Thread: Atheism and morality
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(July 9, 2013 at 8:14 am)paulpablo Wrote: Then I still don't know what your argument even is, I thought you were saying god must exist because of normative morality, I don't care about the in depth ...
Inigo Philosophy 508 149762 July 9, 2013 at 9:51 am
    Thread: Atheism and morality
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(July 9, 2013 at 7:57 am)paulpablo Wrote: My point was that hunger, morals, teaching the next generation, its all instinctive to people. When you think about normative morality you seem to have com...
Inigo Philosophy 508 149762 July 9, 2013 at 8:10 am
    Thread: Atheism and morality
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(July 9, 2013 at 2:01 am)MindForgedManacle Wrote: (July 9, 2013 at 1:49 am)Inigo Wrote: Yes, morality could be a hallucination. I take it that for morality to 'exist' at least some statements of ...
Inigo Philosophy 508 149762 July 9, 2013 at 6:46 am
    Thread: Atheism and morality
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(July 9, 2013 at 1:46 am)MindForgedManacle Wrote: Well you seem to be trading on a somewhat odd usage of 'exists'. Just because we view actions as, say, having the property of 'wrongness', it doesn'...
Inigo Philosophy 508 149762 July 9, 2013 at 1:49 am