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Thread: Atheists living in very religious places, do you have moments of doubt?
Post: RE: Atheists living in very religious places, do y...
| I grew up in a religious city, but thankfully, had agnostic parents. After a number of personal tragedies, I really thought I needed to "find god" so I entered a Christian bible school, where I not on... |
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Dorian Gray |
Atheism
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October 30, 2014 at 8:45 pm |
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Thread: Atheism liberated me from pointless thinking,and made my life enjoyable.
Post: RE: Atheism liberated me from pointless thinking,a...
| (October 30, 2014 at 12:24 am)dyresand Wrote: why would you want to go to heaven you are forced to be happy there.
I became skeptical about the idea of heaven when I thought about all the people tha... |
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Dorian Gray |
Atheism
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October 30, 2014 at 10:37 am |
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Thread: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction
Post: RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction
| (October 27, 2014 at 11:20 am)alpha male Wrote: Er, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and suggest that most everyone who makes it to AA, rehab or therapy tried willpower and self control multiple time... |
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Dorian Gray |
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October 27, 2014 at 7:38 pm |
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Thread: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction
Post: RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction
| (October 23, 2014 at 12:53 am)smithers Wrote: I disagree when you say AA is a waste of time when you don't believe in god. There are plenty of people who have found a way to make AA make sense for t... |
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Dorian Gray |
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October 23, 2014 at 1:28 pm |
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Thread: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction
Post: RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction
| (October 22, 2014 at 9:50 pm)Aractus Wrote: True that its down to you, however it sounds like you still found AA to be somewhat useful. I'm an AA critic I believe the program is fundamentally flawed... |
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Dorian Gray |
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October 22, 2014 at 11:29 pm |
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Thread: Atheism liberated me from pointless thinking,and made my life enjoyable.
Post: RE: Atheism liberated me from pointless thinking,a...
| (October 22, 2014 at 7:24 pm)Lek Wrote: I believe that people of all faiths can have real experiences with God, even though their doctrines may be incorrect. God calls us all to him and will not re... |
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Dorian Gray |
Atheism
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October 22, 2014 at 8:53 pm |
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Thread: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction
Post: RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction
| My experience with AA has been more or less neutral. I've been to hundreds of meetings, some court-ordered, some not, some required by a sober home I once lived in. The last time I spent a year in AA ... |
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Dorian Gray |
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October 22, 2014 at 8:19 pm |
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Thread: How do you tolerate religious people?
Post: RE: How do you tolerate religious people?
| Tolerating people is one of the most difficult things to do in life. It's not just Christians or people of different beliefs. I mean, right now I have to tolerate a person who is patting himself on th... |
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Dorian Gray |
Atheism
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October 22, 2014 at 4:54 pm |
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Thread: Atheism liberated me from pointless thinking,and made my life enjoyable.
Post: RE: Atheism liberated me from pointless thinking,a...
| (October 20, 2014 at 1:25 pm)Lek Wrote: So you believe that all theists are mentally ill? Presidents, doctors, lawyers, teachers, businessmen, etc - all productive members of society, not patients ... |
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Dorian Gray |
Atheism
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October 22, 2014 at 2:06 pm |
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Thread: Religion, ghosts, gods, chupacabra and beliefs?
Post: RE: Religion, ghosts, gods, chupacabra and beliefs...
| I don't really know how "wonderful" it is. I mean, this nation elected a president that claims god told him to end the tyranny in Iraq. And this man was elected again.
If this sort of thing doesn't s... |
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Dorian Gray |
Atheism
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October 18, 2014 at 5:28 pm |
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Thread: Religion, ghosts, gods, chupacabra and beliefs?
Post: RE: Religion, ghosts, gods, chupacabra and beliefs...
| (October 17, 2014 at 3:24 pm)TreeSapNest Wrote: Hey, Dorian.
You have much, much more in common with believers than not. Everyone believes in something that isn't real, they just don't know it ye... |
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Dorian Gray |
Atheism
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October 18, 2014 at 12:13 pm |
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Thread: New here and need advice
Post: RE: New here and need advice
| Welcome. I empathize with your situation. I too am or was a people pleaser and sometimes have a hard time in life. But I have learned with age that even with your family, you have a right to disregard... |
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Dorian Gray |
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October 16, 2014 at 9:06 pm |
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Thread: Go to Jail
Post: RE: Go to Jail
| It's generally considered a bad idea in the AA community if your higher power is a mortal. Your higher power should be larger than life.
As an interesting side note, I attended a sermon once in which... |
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Dorian Gray |
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October 16, 2014 at 8:19 pm |
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Thread: Christianity in America is so fucked up
Post: RE: Christianity in America is so fucked up
| (October 16, 2014 at 1:17 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Why bother praying if God has a plan anyway.I asked this to a pastor once and he said "Because god likes it."
Praise the LORD and pass the ammuni... |
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Dorian Gray |
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October 16, 2014 at 8:03 pm |
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Thread: Go to Jail
Post: RE: Go to Jail
| (October 16, 2014 at 1:20 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: I firmly believe (after 28 years of sobriety) that the 'higher power' stuff is a necessary fiction in view of the pathology of addiction in most cases.
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Dorian Gray |
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October 16, 2014 at 1:54 pm |
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Thread: Go to Jail
Post: RE: Go to Jail
| (October 15, 2014 at 5:38 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: It's a very bad ruling. A higher power, as it says in the article, can be anything: the greater good, aliens, his girlfriend, or even his own penis. N... |
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Dorian Gray |
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October 16, 2014 at 12:42 pm |
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Thread: Go to Jail
Post: RE: Go to Jail
| (October 15, 2014 at 6:00 pm)Beccs Wrote: http://www.sossobriety.org/12steps.htm
They exist, I'm just not sure courts will recognise them.
I've run across this before and these secular 12 steps int... |
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Dorian Gray |
Atheism
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October 16, 2014 at 10:39 am |
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Thread: Go to Jail
Post: RE: Go to Jail
| In the Christian rehab I was in, some guys preferred going back to prison instead of completing the program.
But, yes, some judges will offer you this deal, but you have to complete the year. Unfortu... |
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Dorian Gray |
Atheism
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October 15, 2014 at 5:54 pm |
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Thread: Do some people really need Jesus?
Post: Do some people really need Jesus?
| I had an interesting realization yesterday that made me question the ethics of my outspoken atheism. I live and have lived with people who have a history of extensive drug and alcohol abuse, violence,... |
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Dorian Gray |
Atheism
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October 15, 2014 at 4:31 pm |
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Thread: Fixing the bible
Post: RE: Fixing the bible
| Book's last line angers me. It's drippy with self-satisfied pretentiousness and sanctimony. Faith is emotion in place of evidence. It's what causes planes to crash into buildings and abortion clinics ... |
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Dorian Gray |
Christianity
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October 11, 2014 at 8:29 pm |
