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Thread: God As Grounding Cause
Post: RE: God As Grounding Cause
| (May 25, 2018 at 12:23 am)robvalue Wrote: (May 25, 2018 at 12:13 am)datc Wrote: Is this where atheism is at these days? You'd rather deny that 2 + 2 = 4 than accept a theistic conclusion?
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May 25, 2018 at 12:59 am |
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Thread: God As Grounding Cause
Post: RE: God As Grounding Cause
| (May 25, 2018 at 12:01 am)robvalue Wrote: Khem has responded well so I don't need to add much to that, thanks ...
Is this where atheism is at these days? You'd rather deny that 2 + 2 = 4 than accept... |
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Thread: God As Grounding Cause
Post: RE: God As Grounding Cause
| (May 24, 2018 at 6:42 pm)SteveII Wrote: I think you are wrong on this one (and I think we have been over this). We can infer several things from a first cause:
Immaterial: Since space came into exi... |
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May 24, 2018 at 7:43 pm |
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Thread: God As Grounding Cause
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| (May 24, 2018 at 2:30 pm)Khemikal Wrote: The laws of physics are based upon observations - and they;re provisional. If you're imagining that theres a "law of no infinite regress"...what possible ob... |
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May 24, 2018 at 2:46 pm |
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Thread: God As Grounding Cause
Post: RE: God As Grounding Cause
| (May 24, 2018 at 2:15 am)robvalue Wrote: I respect that he admits that we can learn nothing about this cause. Trying to call the cause "God" is a shifty play though (I'm not sure if he's doing this ... |
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May 24, 2018 at 2:38 pm |
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Thread: God As Grounding Cause
Post: RE: God As Grounding Cause
| (May 24, 2018 at 2:00 am)robvalue Wrote: Why can't all of reality have popped into existence for no reason at all? Or does "no reason" itself qualify as a cause?
Why can't there be an infinite regr... |
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May 24, 2018 at 2:16 pm |
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Thread: God As Grounding Cause
Post: RE: God As Grounding Cause
| (May 24, 2018 at 2:00 am)robvalue Wrote: Why can't all of reality have popped into existence for no reason at all? Or does "no reason" itself qualify as a cause?
Why can't there be an infinite regr... |
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May 24, 2018 at 11:42 am |
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Thread: God As Grounding Cause
Post: God As Grounding Cause
| There are four kinds of causation: physical, teleological, Aristotelian, and divine grounding causation. One way to track them is to observe that:
- a physical cause precedes its effect in time, as a... |
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May 23, 2018 at 9:59 pm |
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Thread: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
Post: RE: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
| A speech by Matt Dillahunty was linked to for my edification from an atheist website on which I presented my arguments for the existence of God from "contingency."
At the beginning, Matt distinguishe... |
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November 19, 2017 at 4:00 pm |
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Thread: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
Post: RE: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
| (November 11, 2017 at 10:37 pm)Astreja Wrote: Well, it's certainly *my* doctrine. I do not find any philosophical arguments for gods convincing. At some point, all of them break down with an unsup... |
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November 11, 2017 at 10:43 pm |
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Thread: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
Post: RE: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
| (November 11, 2017 at 10:17 pm)Cyberman Wrote: How about 666 proofs for "God's" existence?
There are correct proofs and incorrect ones. I see no advantage in failing to discriminate between them. |
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November 11, 2017 at 10:21 pm |
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Thread: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
Post: RE: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
| (November 11, 2017 at 9:10 pm)Whateverist Wrote: So God is the totality of Plato's ideal forms, or is He kind of like a watch maker except he just turns out the ideal forms and those then give rise ... |
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November 11, 2017 at 10:00 pm |
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Thread: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
Post: RE: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
| (November 11, 2017 at 9:30 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Yet another guy that thinks he can argue (philosophize) god into existence. Thanks random guy.
Neo should be here, he cuckoo for Tom Tom.
Is it your ... |
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November 11, 2017 at 9:40 pm |
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Thread: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
Post: RE: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
| (November 11, 2017 at 7:39 pm)Whateverist Wrote: The natural world is everything I've ever experienced, I cannot think of a thing which is not a part of the natural world.
My concluding paragraph re... |
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November 11, 2017 at 8:28 pm |
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Thread: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
Post: RE: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
| (November 11, 2017 at 6:36 pm)Whateverist Wrote: Well if God was as clearly present as rats, we'd have to deal with It. But how busy you must be if you are seriously going around justifying your di... |
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November 11, 2017 at 6:56 pm |
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Thread: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
Post: RE: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
| (November 11, 2017 at 6:04 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: It's a waste of time. This jerkoff is going on about prima materia as if it's something real.
You are both cruel and wrong. Prime matter is an abst... |
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November 11, 2017 at 6:28 pm |
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Thread: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
Post: RE: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
| (November 11, 2017 at 5:28 pm)Khemikal Wrote: (November 11, 2017 at 5:14 pm)datc Wrote: Wtf? My OP presents precisely evidence or proofs. Whether they overwhelm you or not is for you to decide. Bu... |
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November 11, 2017 at 5:36 pm |
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Thread: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
Post: RE: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
| (November 11, 2017 at 5:07 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: You might consider that the purpose of this site is not.to drive traffic to your blog.
I am considering that this site appears to be increasingl... |
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November 11, 2017 at 5:14 pm |
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Thread: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
Post: RE: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
| (November 11, 2017 at 3:24 pm)bennyboy Wrote: No links.
Nobody's going to click that, and come back here and report to you.
It's just my personal blog; there are no ads and almost no images, just p... |
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November 11, 2017 at 3:48 pm |
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Thread: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
Post: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
| St. Thomas begins his Third Way by saying that "we find in nature things that are possible to be and not to be, since they are found to be generated, and to corrupt, and consequently, they are possibl... |
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