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Thread: Really Hard Time (Mr. Deity)
Post: Really Hard Time (Mr. Deity)
| Enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2ujpzdeolA |
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July 13, 2010 at 1:28 pm |
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Thread: Can atheists convert theists?
Post: RE: Can atheists convert theists?
| Quote:So if this comes down to a matter of personal choice then how does this original claim of yours stand?:
Quote:Classifying myself as an atheist implies too much knowledge of the God in question... |
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July 13, 2010 at 6:30 am |
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Thread: Can atheists convert theists?
Post: RE: Can atheists convert theists?
| Quote:I thought you were a theological noncognitivist like Knight? How is it not unreasonable for you to disbelieve in God but it's unreasonable for me to disbelieve in God? If you claim that no meani... |
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July 12, 2010 at 7:15 pm |
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Thread: Can atheists convert theists?
Post: RE: Can atheists convert theists?
| (July 12, 2010 at 1:20 pm)Purple Rabbit Wrote: (July 12, 2010 at 5:14 am)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: Knight... being an atheist doesn't require any knowledge of God.
All I know of God is the concept o... |
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July 12, 2010 at 1:25 pm |
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Thread: Creationist group enlists students in frontal attack on evolutionism
Post: RE: Creationist group enlists students in frontal ...
| With any luck, this may work more in the advantage of science, not creationism. Open debates would get the issue in the open and force creationists to defend their beliefs and assumptions. This will g... |
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July 12, 2010 at 1:09 pm |
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Thread: Can atheists convert theists?
Post: RE: Can atheists convert theists?
| (July 12, 2010 at 12:47 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: Quote:When you define God as "creator of the universe" then yes
Well since that's how God is usually defined (or at least very often) then that's t... |
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July 12, 2010 at 1:01 pm |
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Thread: Can atheists convert theists?
Post: RE: Can atheists convert theists?
| Quote:Oh, you're an atheist.
When you define God as "creator of the universe" then yes. There is no way to get that definition though, which is what I meant by it should not be defined. I should have... |
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July 12, 2010 at 12:37 pm |
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Thread: Can atheists convert theists?
Post: RE: Can atheists convert theists?
| (July 12, 2010 at 7:55 am)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: (July 12, 2010 at 6:49 am)Knight Wrote: Rejection the notion that something which has not been observed, measured, or detected exists is meaningles... |
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July 12, 2010 at 8:15 am |
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Thread: Can atheists convert theists?
Post: RE: Can atheists convert theists?
| Quote:Issues of burden of proof aside, the point is that if it can't be disproven, then it's reasonable for the belief to remain.
I would not use the word "reasonable." It's "possible" for the belie... |
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July 12, 2010 at 7:44 am |
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Thread: Can atheists convert theists?
Post: RE: Can atheists convert theists?
| Quote:All I know of God is the concept of a "deity" as with all I know of the Easter Bunny is the concept of "The Easter Bunny" - I claim no knowledge of the Easter Bunny... I just reject its existenc... |
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July 12, 2010 at 6:49 am |
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Thread: what would make you change your beliefs?
Post: RE: what would make you change your beliefs?
| Also, consciousness (states of it) can be correctly predicted through brain scans. Now, certain thoughts and behaviors can also be predicted:
Read Your Mind
Consciousness in Vegetative Patients
"EvF... |
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July 12, 2010 at 6:20 am |
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Thread: what would make you change your beliefs?
Post: RE: what would make you change your beliefs?
| (July 11, 2010 at 9:51 pm)Godhead Wrote: Knight -
I agree that our brains are vastly more complex than any computer. I also agree with the evolution of the physical body. Do you agree with me that... |
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July 12, 2010 at 6:07 am |
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Thread: what would make you change your beliefs?
Post: RE: what would make you change your beliefs?
| (July 11, 2010 at 9:24 pm)Godhead Wrote: Knight -
What turned the computer back on? Computers have users, don't they? I say the user is consciousness. Consciousness is the software, the real us, t... |
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July 11, 2010 at 9:39 pm |
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Thread: Can atheists convert theists?
Post: RE: Can atheists convert theists?
| Just to clarify one point, I don't classify myself as "atheist" but "theological noncognitivist." Classifying myself as an atheist implies too much knowledge of the God in question for my liking, just... |
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July 11, 2010 at 9:24 pm |
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Thread: what would make you change your beliefs?
Post: RE: what would make you change your beliefs?
| (July 11, 2010 at 9:00 pm)Godhead Wrote: AtheistPhil -
If you are knocked out for example, and you come back and return to consciousness, you remember who you are, which means that you can't have ... |
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July 11, 2010 at 9:13 pm |
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Thread: Can atheists convert theists?
Post: RE: Can atheists convert theists?
| If you believe everything is God, then the only way to convince you that there is no God would be to prove that nothing exists...or that everything we know in actuality does not exist, including ourse... |
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July 11, 2010 at 8:55 pm |
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Thread: Can atheists convert theists?
Post: RE: Can atheists convert theists?
| Quote:In other words, god and everthing and all cnsciousnss are one and the same.
Sounds like someone has been reading "Siddhartha." Om.
Anyway, that's an interesting view, but how does one come t... |
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July 11, 2010 at 8:30 pm |
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Thread: Can atheists convert theists?
Post: RE: Can atheists convert theists?
| I responded to the point of this thread--read the last post on page 9. |
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July 11, 2010 at 3:22 pm |
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Thread: Can atheists convert theists?
Post: RE: Can atheists convert theists?
| Quote:a nonreligious personal belief system which involves god.
Unless this "god" you are talking about is supported scientifically, with hard evidence, any personal belief system relating to this go... |
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July 11, 2010 at 2:17 pm |
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Thread: Can atheists convert theists?
Post: RE: Can atheists convert theists?
| (July 11, 2010 at 11:30 am)Scented Nectar Wrote: If a theist is willing to set aside 'trusting-others'-based and 'I-wanna-believe'-based beliefs, and look at only logic/evidence-based information, t... |
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July 11, 2010 at 12:29 pm |
