A small experment

[paulpablo]

i think sex between a man and another man is disgusting but i think they should have just as many rights as everyone else, including the right to marry and all that.

ive never been effected badly by any homosexual and ive been out to gay clubs before theyre usually more peaceful than other clubs. Apart from a bite mark scar on my hand from a lesbian biting me out of jelousy that her girlfriend was holding my other hand.
gays marrying doesnt effect me in the slightest.
more females for me if men decide they want to have sex with each other.
i enjoy looking at lesbian sex.
so yeh let them bum and scissor all they want it doesnt effect me.

[The Grand Nudger]

Gay bars are badass, don't even have to bring my wallet.

[Angrboda]

I think I'd have to know more about what it means to be for/against gay people/rights.

I'm against unreasonable discrimination against any group. What might constitute reasonable and unreasonable in this case is the subject of much debate, both within religion and outside of it.

Oh, and I'm a theist.

[Whateverist]

Most of us here are agnostic atheists. Having to choose between labels is a little annoying but I don't find it very hard. Agnosticism describes a stance of recognizing when there are no grounds for investing belief either for or against a proposition. Holding no positive beliefs in regard to gods, atheism, is just one result of my agnosticism.

Oops. Forgot to mention that I'm an advocate for gay rights. Forty five years ago, in a time when the second class status of women and people of color was being challenged publicly, I couldn't help but notice how much worse the situation was for gays. I also recognized a kind of revulsion in myself toward gay male sex which I knew couldn't be anything other than a culturally absorbed bias. I deliberately desensitized myself toward it. Not so very hard to do, and definitely the right thing to do by my godless standards.

[Angrboda]

I also recognized a kind of revulsion in myself toward gay male sex which I knew couldn't be anything other than a culturally absorbed bias.

How do you know this to be the case?

[Whateverist]

I also recognized a kind of revulsion in myself toward gay male sex which I knew couldn't be anything other than a culturally absorbed bias.

How do you know this to be the case?

Of course I can't know it in any ultimate, philosophy-worthy sense. But in the seat-of-the-pants way in which I make most decisions in life, I felt sure enough to act on it.

The one unexpected downside of my decision is that I am no longer as turned on by the thought of lesbian sex as I had been. Don't get me wrong. It is still a pleasant picture .. double servings of all the good stuff along with women who like what I do. But the taboo edginess is gone.

[naimless]

I'm an agnostic atheist and I just don't give a fuck about special group rights.

For me it's pretty simple. Individuals should be able to consent to whatever the fuck they want. This includes weed, prostitution, gays...

Somehow society got it twisted and made the latter group more important, more significant.

They ain't.

[Dee Dee Ramone]

I am an atheist against homophobes. Don't shoot, let 'em burn.

[Whateverist]

I'm an agnostic atheist and I just don't give a fuck about special group rights.

For me it's pretty simple. Individuals should be able to consent to whatever the fuck they want. This includes weed, prostitution, gays...

Somehow society got it twisted and made the latter group more important, more significant.

They ain't.

The only sense in which gays are a 'special' group is that they are still victimized and discriminated against more often and openly than other groups which have been picked on historically. They're not more deserving of rights, just more in need of having their rights protected. So they're no more important, just more often picked on. (Where do you get this stuff?)