A Warm Welcome to All of You

[AFTT47]

Welcome! Hope we can help.

[Alex K]

I believe that there is only ONE God, Allah, and that my proof is nothing but Quran.

This will not go well.

I kind of glanced over the ridiculous notion that an old book should be considered proof, for the sake of the argument. But it doesn't bode well.

[pocaracas]

This will not go well.

I kind of glanced over the ridiculous notion that an old book should be considered proof, for the sake of the argument. But it doesn't bode well.

If I make make an analogy... believers in woo love analogies!
It's as if Plato's Timaeus is proof that Atlantis existed.

[Alex K]

I wouldn't be surprised if Atlantis were a part of islamic mythology, actually. You never know.

[Minimalist]

Or people thinking Star Trek was real because ..... oh, wait....



bad example.

[pocaracas]

Well, Star Trek is actual fiction set in the future.

Now, if you were talking about star wars... (a long time ago in a galaxy far far away)
oh....http://www.jedichurch.org/

[Secular Elf]

Hello learncritic. Welcome to the Atheist Forum.

To answer a few of your questions and assumptions:

1. "atheism" = from the Greek words a-, a negative prefix meaning "not, or without" and theos, theon, "god, gods". Therefore the meaning is "without a belief in any particular god or group of gods" in its widest sense.

2. Atheism is most definitely not in any way,shape, or form a religion. It is simply the lack of belief in any magical imaginary friends in the sky, or in the water, or in the ground, etc. etc.

3. It is not necessary to have religion to be moral, ethical, or to treat people right as you would have yourself be treated. The earliest example of a humanistic way of looking at ethics can be found in ancient China.

I am happy that you came here to learn. I advise that if you truly want to learn from the atheist/secular/freethought community that you become an armchair anthropologist and search for the intellectual material of atheists and freethinkers that are available on the internet. Voltaire, Thomas Paine, Bertrand Russell, Robert Green Ingersoll, and Paul Kurtz would be a good start. From there you could proceed with atheist/agnostic bloggers, there are plenty of them. Youtube videos of The Thinking Atheist, Amonra, etc.

There is one book I can recommend by Ibn Warraq (pen name) of a former Muslim who is now an atheist. It is entitled "Why I Am Not A Muslim."

And there are plenty of people here in the forums you can learn from as well.

Again, welcome, and learn much and have fun.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Hiyas, hope you enjoy your time here and learn what you wish to learn. As for rudeness, I'll be courteous to you so long as you're courteous to me, but if you're rude, you'll get what-for. Also --

For example, Atheists rejects Bible and Quran ... But what exactly are the arguments (with proofs) for all these rejections?

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I believe that there is only ONE God, Allah, and that my proof is nothing but Quran. If you destroy Quran, you destroy my faith.

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However, I DONT WANT TO discuss Quran.

You aren't going to learn why atheists reject your Koran if you don't discuss it ... but I can't blame you for your reticence. I wouldn't want to defend that book either.

[Aoi Magi]

Hi, Welcome!

I do hope you will stay with us for a while and learn about atheism. Though I'd suggest starting with science first and then tackle atheism, it'd be easier that way.

[SteelCurtain]

learncritic.

Why don't you pick a specific thing you want to learn start a thread about it in the appropriate subforum, and we all can discuss?