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John Frum
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John Frum
John Frum cult(s) is based on a American soldier(s) who brought crates of goodies in WW2 to the people living on remote Pacific islands. People there still await for him to return, but what kind of puzzles me is what he supposedly taught the people there, and that is to throw away their money and get rid of the cattle, so they are basically just lying around all day not doing anything.

Now, if John Frum really is based on a actual G.I. it is hardly likely that he would tell people to throw their money and live in poverty, so the logical conclusion is that they made up those teachings.

But why would they make this hoax? How did they come to being convinced that Frum told them to be without money and cattle?
Perhaps because they genuinely don't like money, since it is a very recent concept for them, introduced by missionaries, as they probably don't like cattle, so they just put in things they like.

Here's the video



teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: John Frum
It's really simple.


Native: Who are you?

Soldier: I'm John, from Philadelphia.

Native: John From?

Soldier: Yeah, John, from Philadelphia.

Native: John Frum.

Soldier: Yeah, you got it.
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RE: John Frum
Without having watched the video, it seems a logical progression from misunderstood teachings about Jesus and civics.
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RE: John Frum
That certainly was the spin they wanted to put on it.
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RE: John Frum
(December 28, 2020 at 2:51 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: John Frum cult(s) is based on a American soldier(s) who brought crates of goodies in WW2 to the people living on remote Pacific islands. People there still await for him to return, but what kind of puzzles me is what he supposedly taught the people there, and that is to throw away their money and get rid of the cattle, so they are basically just lying around all day not doing anything.

Now, if John Frum really is based on a actual G.I. it is hardly likely that he would tell people to throw their money and live in poverty, so the logical conclusion is that they made up those teachings.

But why would they make this hoax? How did they come to being convinced that Frum told them to be without money and cattle?
Perhaps because they genuinely don't like money, since it is a very recent concept for them, introduced by missionaries, as they probably don't like cattle, so they just put in things they like.

Here's the video




Could've been worse, they could have decided on Phil the Greek as their god.
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RE: John Frum
(December 28, 2020 at 3:59 pm)Angrboda Wrote: Without having watched the video, it seems a logical progression from misunderstood teachings about Jesus and civics.

Or maybe they are understood teachings of Jesus, considering that Jesus believed that birds put no effort into hunting for berries, seeds, insects, fish because "heavenly Father feedeth them" - making a stupid conclusion that humans should not bother hunting, gathering, or farming. So if John Frum's teachings about not caring about anything because he will provide them with everything when he comes back are based on Jesus' teachings, then it shows Jesus' teachings are counterproductive since these people, as you can see, don't do anything or strive to anything so-called materialistic.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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