(August 7, 2015 at 10:33 am)robvalue Wrote: Scenario to all theists:
God shows up and announces to everyone in the world that we need to know what is moral and what is not, things have not been clear enough up to this point.
"Murder and rape are moral. Helping people is immoral. Everything else is neither moral or immoral. Bye."
Now. Will you live by this moral code? It's the universal moral code, we just didn't know exactly what it was until now. Would you be fine with me murdering and raping your family? If not, on what grounds can you object? God just said it's moral, and he is the only authority.
According to the Bible, God has already ordered murder and rape many times. Both at once in Numbers 5:
http://www.parallelbible.com/numbers/5.htm
"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.