(August 18, 2015 at 12:36 am)Thena323 Wrote: GC, I didn't mention the Holy Spirit in relation to my past bible study, because I didn't feel it was relevant to whatever point you were trying to make. For a believer such as yourself, I guess that is unfathomable. I am familiar with the concept, I've heard countless sermons on the Holy Spirit, but it means nothing to me. You do understand that an atheist does'nt believe in the Holy Spirit, don't you? You keep asking these questions, operating under the premise that I have no belief in god, while assuming I accept that a Holy Spirit exists, but choose not to follow it.
And, if you see nothing wrong with Genesis and you take it to be literal Word of God..... hell, I don't know what to tell you. I even know of several fundamentalists who won't do that, because even they know ridiculous it sounds. The Creation story is nonsense, that is a fact. Why won't you accept reality?
In my mind, this feels as if you're trying to convince me that 2 + 7= 3, when I know that it equals 9. You can present all of the spiritual, philosophical, emotional arguments in the world....but, they just don't mean anything to me. I don't believe in magic, GC. Christianity requires magical thinking from beginning to end that many people are just not capable of accepting.
I totally understand that you do not now believe in any part of the Triune God of creation. What I was asking is this, when you were doing Bible studies as a Christian were you taught that the Holy Spirit was essential to understanding the scriptures.
As for creation of the universe, there are great problems for the "big bang," all the dark things that have come out dark matter and such have come to life to shore up the "big bang," without these dark do-dads the "big bang" starts to fall apart. The big bang people haven't ever explained where the matter came from to begin with, the starting point of the big bang can't be explained, so it falls apart before it got started.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.