JUST OPEN YOUR HEART, DAMMIT!

[Randy Carson]

God doesn't do magic, just because you and I can't understand how He does it doesn't mean something else did, with God we have a absolute beginning. Why are you avoiding my question about the Holy Spirit, it's a simple thing I ask, it only requires a yes or no.

GC

Relax, Sparky...take it easy, before you burst a vessel. I don't get your Holy Spirit fetish, or what it is that you seem to need for me to say......what's my line here?

You as a Christian, are in fact promoting Biblical magic. Christians, hypocritically refuse to call it magic, but face it GC...that's exactly what it is. The Bible clearly says that your god spoke the world into existence....no mistaking it. That is a spell. A magic spell. Without a tremendous belief in magic, it is impossible to be true believer. All that you seem to be pushing is magic beliefs. You shouldn't get bent out of shape because people can't accept that
magic is real. Come on, GC. Be reasonable.

Words mean things, and they have connotations that can be positive or negative.

Atheists like to use the word "magic" because it demeans God because of its connotations of things that are false or done by some form of trickery that is not understood by the audience but to the magician alone. Now, if you are referring to magic as in Wicca, etc. well, yes, there are ways of tapping into supernatural powers, but fooling with the "Dark Side" is not very wise in the long run.

While the authority and power of God are not really understood by us, either, the parallel is of limited value generally, and I think we both know that you use it because you know it is offensive to theists. That's my bet, anyway.