RE: The Problem with Christians
March 9, 2016 at 7:24 am
(This post was last modified: March 9, 2016 at 7:36 am by AJW333.)
(March 8, 2016 at 9:15 pm)Stimbo Wrote:I'm not sure I understand the question.(March 8, 2016 at 8:34 pm)AJW333 Wrote: If the supernatural operates outside the laws of science, how can I prove it with science?
I'll make it easy for you. If what you consider supernatural operates outside the laws of science, does it affect anything within the laws of science in any way? Start there.
(March 8, 2016 at 10:29 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:So what did the earth look like 4.5 billion years ago?(March 8, 2016 at 7:24 pm)AJW333 Wrote: When the earth was formed, it would have consisted simply of dirt, rocks and water. What else was there to create life with?
This is so fractally incorrect, that it is not even wrong.
Please stop getting your info from creationist websites, they are making you look way dumber than you probably are (I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you are just being misled by dishonest hucksters).
(March 9, 2016 at 7:22 am)Constable Dorfl Wrote:I'm quite familiar with the periodic table. When I use the world 'dirt" it goes without saying that it would include any and all possible mineral/element combinations.(March 8, 2016 at 7:24 pm)AJW333 Wrote: When the earth was formed, it would have consisted simply of dirt, rocks and water. What else was there to create?
From wikipedia, elements which make up the earth:
Number Name Symbol ppm (μg/g) ppb (atoms)
8 oxygen . O 297000 482,000,000
12 magnesium. Mg 154000 164,000,000
14 silicon. Si 161000 150,000,000
26 iron. Fe 319000 148,000,000
13 aluminum. Al 15900 15,300,000
20 calcium . Ca 17100 11,100,000
28 nickel . Ni 18220 8,010,000
1 hydrogen . H 260 6,700,000
16 sulfur . S 6350 5,150,000
24 chromium. Cr 4700 2,300,000
11 sodium . Na 1800 2,000,000
6 carbon . C 730 1,600,000
15 phosphorus. P 1210 1,020,000
25 manganese . Mn 1700 800,000
22 titanium . Ti 810 440,000
27 cobalt . Co 880 390,000
19 potassium . K 160 110,000
17 chlorine . Cl 76 56,000
23 vanadium . V 105 53,600
7 nitrogen . N 25 46,000
29 copper . Cu 60 25,000
30 zinc. Zn. 40 16,000
9 fluorine. F 10 14,000
21 scandium. Sc 11 6,300
3 lithium . Li 1.10 4,100
38 strontium . Sr 13 3,900
32 germanium. Ge 7.00 2,500
40 zirconium . Zr 7.10 2,000
31 gallium . Ga 3.00 1,000
34 selenium. Se 2.70 890
56 barium . Ba 4.50 850
39 yttrium . Y 2.90 850
33 arsenic . As 1.70 590
5 boron . B 0.20 480
42 molybdenum . Mo 1.70 460
44 ruthenium . Ru 1.30 330
78 platinum . Pt 1.90 250
46 palladium. Pd 1.00 240
58 cerium. Ce 1.13 210
60 neodymium . Nd 0.84 150
4 beryllium . Be 0.05 140
41 niobium . Nb 0.44 120
76 osmium . Os 0.90 120
77 iridium . Ir 0.90 120
37 rubidium . Rb 0.40 120
35 bromine. Br 0.30 97
57 lanthanum . La 0.44 82
66 dysprosium . Dy 0.46 74
64 gadolinium . Gd 0.37 61
52 tellurium . Te 0.30 61
45 rhodium . Rh 0.24 61
50 tin . Sn 0.25 55
62 samarium . Sm 0.27 47
68 erbium . Er 0.30 47
70 ytterbium . Yb 0.30 45
59 praseodymium Pr 0.17 31
82 lead . Pb 0.23 29
72 hafnium . Hf 0.19 28
74 tungsten . W 0.17 24
79 gold . Au 0.16 21
48 cadmium . Cd 0.08 18
63 europium . Eu 0.10 17
67 holmium. Ho 0.10 16
47 silver . Ag 0.05 12
65 terbium . Tb 0.07 11
51 antimony . Sb 0.05 11
75 rhenium . Re 0.08 10
53 iodine . I 0.05 10
69 thulium. Tm 0.05 7
55 cesium . Cs 0.04 7
71 lutetium . Lu 0.05 7
90 thorium . Th 0.06 6
73 tantalum . Ta 0.03 4
80 mercury . Hg 0.02 3
92 uranium . U 0.02 2
49 indium . In 0.01 2
81 thallium . Tl 0.01 2
83 bismuth. Bi 0.01 1
But as a man of science youd know this, right ajw?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abundanc...l_elements
(March 8, 2016 at 10:09 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:How would you test my claims that God told me something? For instance, I remember going to the mall and as I got out of the car, out of the blue I had a strong impression that I would run into a particular person from Church and that she would be wearing dark blue pants and a pink top. I walked into the place and there she was, as described. (btw I hadn't seen this woman for some time).(March 8, 2016 at 9:15 pm)Stimbo Wrote: I'll make it easy for you. If what you consider supernatural operates outside the laws of science, does it affect anything within the laws of science in any way? Start there.
Just in case AJW333's intellect does not allow him to understand what you are alluding to, I'll spell it out a bit for him.
If you are claiming that your supernatural god is able to, and does interact with the natural laws of science (miracles, appearing to various people, communicating with people, etc), then those claims can be tested scientifically.
In other words, if your god answers your prayers, or communicates with you, then you are claiming to be a "god detector", and that is a testable claim.
Coincidence or is there some paranormal, or supernatural communication here? What test do we apply here?