(April 23, 2016 at 12:31 am)Evie Wrote:(April 23, 2016 at 12:01 am)Losty Wrote: Maybe not. Still in that case if somewhere were maybe sentenced to life in prison without parole, that someone is still a human being. They still get my empathy. I will still advocate for them to receive mental health care, be treated with basic human decency, and be allowed to maintain their dignity as a person.
Also, thank you for saying I did a good job wording my feelings
One of the many reasons turtle and kitten are besties is because we both agree on matters of justice. Justice is not about retribution. Retributive ethics are not just. No one should be punished "because they deserve it" people should only be punished when it's better for everyone. Justice, empathy and above all compassion and humanism is for everyone. Just because the phrase "just deserts" contains the word "just" doesn't mean it is just. It's not about deserving things it's about helping and protecting everyone, mitigating harm, aiding recovery, rehabilitation when possible and detainment when necessary. Maximum quality of life for all. Compassion for all, focus on those who are most needy and victimised but still, compassion for all. Everyone matters, everyone is human. Everyone does what they can do. Empathy is human and empathy is humane
This is beautiful. Wow. You guys have given me a lot to think about. (I think that some of my ideas about punishment are still mired in the old testament, even though I wasn't really aware of it.) I like your take on justice a lot better. Thanks Evie - Losty -

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