RE: Being a sinner just for being born
June 13, 2016 at 2:17 pm
(This post was last modified: June 13, 2016 at 2:24 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(June 13, 2016 at 1:34 pm)Ignorant Wrote: 1) =) Let me make it simple. Mercilessly killing people/things does not add to a full human life => If that is the case, then a full human life is not concurrently compatible with a life of merciless killing => If that is the case, then humanity is not fundamentally a thing that mercilessly kills.So death and suffering - victims and communities, these are the metrics? It appears that we're considering dead humans at present.....we've got more depth than that, in the killing business, I think. Suppose the merciless slaughter of some organism x were beneficial to the community? There's a fun example. We have, perhaps, the opportunity to eradicate mosquitoes. It would be a far less charged subject than the eradication of human beings, I think, lol.
2) The key discrepancy is your premise that asserts that "mercilessly killing" is synonymous with "acting out what we are". I do not think what-we-are and merciless-killer are synonymous. You certainly are not a merciless killer. I think many things are radically MISSING in the act of mercilessly killing people/things, and I know that because of the death and suffering caused in the victims and their communities. Though, I am starting to get the sense that your objection deals more with the concept of "humanity" than with any moral syllogism.
Should we? Is it a moral good to eliminate them - as it adds to human fullness by the metrics of victims and communities, death and suffering?
Quote:Let me ask you this: do you think that you have the same humanity as I do? as Robvalue has? as mlmooney89 has?I think we're all variations on a theme, yes..lol.
Quote:When you read the report of the atrocity in Orlando, did you think to yourself, "Well, I guess that is just a human doing what humans do." OR did you find the murderer's actions to be a colossal human failing?Both, ofc. Not big on binary thinking. Failing collossally is -also- something that we do, in addition to merciless killing, what we-are . I'm guessing that doesn't add to our fullness either...unless maybe that failure is somehow beneficial to victims and communities? Is it a moral good to fail if that failure yields communal gain?
Let's say I fail...at being a christian. If that failure benefits those around me..if it reduces death or suffering....would that be a moral good?
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