Man Named 'Tiffany' Is Dominating Women's Pro Volleyball in Brazil

[paulpablo]

Well my stance has nothing to do with bigotry and I resent the accusation.  It's a concern as an athlete.  I'm against this for the same reason I'm against steroids. It's a frustrating conversation to have because people are quick with bigot accusation and know nothing about sports.

So cap you're the sports expert yeah? Explain to me why discrimination against trans women is ok? Before you say there's an unfair advantage or whatever they actually have certain standards like the level of testosterone or whatever. You know black men have the highest amount of testosterone, right? How is that not an unfair advantage in really any sport. While we're at it let's ban Micheal Phelps from competing again because he has a very particular long torso short legs ratio kind of body that makes it easier to swim. So really where does this "unfair advantage" thing stops? If it is just limited to transsexuals that's kind of bigotry bro. In sports there will always be people that are more gifted than others and guess what trans women doesn't necessarily mean a big hunk with chest for dayz and biceps that go Choo chooooo. In fact, the whole "it's an unfair advantage" comes from that stereotype. So really, the federation of women can't exclude trans women lol and if they insist I'm sure a law will be passed in the future where women don't have to publicize their trans status.

 I see it not so much as an unfair advantage.  But the reason why there's separation between male and female in some specific sports is to give women a chance at earning money, getting awards and distinctions.  

If UFC and tennis was mixed no one would hear of Ronda Rousey or Serena Williams because rather than being ranked up in the top 5 of their peers they'd be down in the 200s.

Now when a man transitions to a woman and joins their league in sports they're taking the place of a naturally born woman and it seems in some cases dominating their female opponents with the brute force you'd associate with a male athlete.

Trans athletes are making themselves weaker with hormones that's true.  But I'd guess the difference is they can choose their testosterone levels that way to be within the upper part legal limits.  A naturally born woman can use no stereoids or artificial growth hormone, there's no level at which it becomes illegal because it's just all illegal.

I think the issue is probably more complicated and questionable than it's made out to be on both sides.  I don't just think it's as simple as it being simply not right because this person used to be a man, I don't think it's as simple as it is right because an expert behind a desk says so. If and when that decision is made. In the UFC I don't think that's the case where a transitioned woman can compete in the female league. I know Joe Rogan got in trouble for talking about Fallon Fox and Ronda Rousey said at some point she wouldn't fight a trans female.