(April 11, 2018 at 12:53 pm)robvalue Wrote: If we can only observe the effects of the supernatural and can never investigate the supernatural itself, then any supernatural cause is indistinguishable from any other; or from no supernatural cause at all.
That's the problem. People generally define these things so that they can't be disproven; but by doing so, they can't be proven either.
The only sensible definition, I think, is things going on outside of our self-enclosed environment (assuming there is an outside). Otherwise, it's just "unknown" or gibberish.
You have erected a straw man there Rob. No one claims supernatural events just happen and we are left wondering. For example, why in the world shouldn't I attribute the supernatural healing to God in the above example?


